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Originally Posted by CosmicTang
Here's what you said:
If you're saying that the idea that the rich cheat to become rich is a myth, and you said it, then you've said that the rich don't cheat.
Reasonable people call your flat denial of that a lie, or hypocrisy. Take your pick.
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Read it again.
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I think the idea that the "rich cheat to become rich" is either a myth, or a really bad exaggeration.
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See the bolded part? I have NO idea how you got "the rich don't cheat."
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you said this:
If America is different because our values are so distinct and that justifies why we run our health care system in such stark contrast to the other Western industrialized nations then it follows logic that our values would also dictate a difference in who rules and how. If our Plutocracy is no different than anyone else's than neither are our values. You can't have it both ways.
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More hypocrisy.[/quote]
This is blatant misdirection, as you originally initiated by discussion about plutocracies. Really good try at misdirection, you lose.
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Not an emotional outburst. Just pointing out your hypocrisy and challenging you to do better.
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There's been no hypocrisy on my part, just poor reading comprehension and various strawmen on yours, as well as blatant misdirection.
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The reason the depression happened at all was due to a lack of reasonable regulations. People were trading on margins and the banks weren't regulated to protect their deposits so that they could take enormous risks with money they didn't actually have. I'm not advocating over-regulation and wouldn't go as far as the Democrats would, but it's painfully obvious that the participants of the system such as banks and other financial entities are incapable of regulating themselves or behaving in a way that will benefit anyone but themselves. Some regulation is necessary and that regulation should be written and enforced by people NOT associated with these institutions in any way at all.
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No, the reason for the depression was monetary and fiscal mismanagement, as well as a lack of responsibility by people. The last thing Americans want is the government regulating our bank system, that would be disastrious. Once again, the only difference between private sector and public sector is that the public sector/government has a printing press. Some regulation is fine, but SOME.
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Not enough government = financial meltdown
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Except the past 100 years disagree with your assessment.
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Neither illogical nor emotional. Rational and metered response to your complete lack of shame in being able to criticize people who abuse the system at one end but can't be honest about the abusers at the other.
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Another strawman and continued emotional outburst. Either present a rational argument, or concede.
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Not an insult, only an observation. Perhaps you should look up the difference. BTW-I didn't need to look up pejoratives. Keep the vituperative tone up though, it's nice that you can amuse yourself so cheaply.
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You're amusing me more than I could amuse myself.
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Amazing comment coming from someone who claims to be a fan of Ron Paul and Peter Schiff. Perhaps instead of just saying you're a fan you should really dig into what they're saying instead of reading the cliffs notes. They've both pointed out the flaws in the system and how it's geared to keep the plutocracy in power...especially Ron Paul. You can also read Stiglitz and Krugman.
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So what you're saying is, you have no idea what you're talking about and now are just trying to sound intelligent? Everything I have said has been 100% in congruence with the studies of Austrian economics, as well as Schiff and Paul, while you've been advocating the opposite, especially by introducing Krugman, who is by far the dumbest economist I can think of not named Bernanke.
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In all your postings and rants I see lots of opinions, anecdotes, ad hominem attacks, hypocrisy, petty name calling and an adolescent attitude which deflects any serious challenge with "that's a straw man" or "no it isn't" or "you clearly don't know much about (fill in the blank)" but I see no facts whatsoever. It's almost as if you watch or scan some sources with conservative POVs but don't actually do any research on your own.
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So basically, you have nothing legitimate to add so you make up a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit regarding my posts, and leave it at that? Hilarious.
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Dropping names of politicians, economists and the Peter Schiffs of the world doesn't amount to much if you don't listen to or understand what they're saying. I don't see the ability to think critically in your posts. You're clinging to ideology without giving any room for the possibility that you or your POV could be flawed in any way.
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Seeing as how you've shown no ability to argue with me on
any level, I think you should just sit down.