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Originally Posted by weekly
To be fair, I never said it bankrupted the country. I have said a lot of things and perhaps I slipped. Maybe you could quote me on that. I do remember saying that the cost of the Iraqi war could pay for this entire health care bill. Do you disagree with that? Also, ideology has nothing to do with it. It was and is a useless war fought for no reason. There never was any wmd. You can argue forever about the tyrannical Baathist regime. But there are much worse. So politics aside, there are not many that agree that this war is useful.
Come back.
edit: Everyone is partisan. That has no impact on what is right and what is wrong.
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The number one reason for this fucked up economy is the war in Iraq. That is a hard fix. Obama has done more to change the future of America than most presidents in history. All in just over a year. That is amazing. That is real power. You guys can all hold your breath until you turn blue, but this man is an historical game changer whether you like it or not. All you might do is buy a Corvette. This guy goes down in history.
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This economy was headed off the tracks long before the war in Iraq. Reagan, Clinton and Bush I all contributed. The S&L scandal at the end of the 80's was a harbinger of things to come.
Bush II certainly didn't help anything, and by making sure he propped up the economy to put off the collapse as long as he could so it wouldn't happen on his watch he really added to the problem. Neither Bush nor Obama have handled the bailouts and the recovery well at all. They're cherry picking and playing favorites. Why do you think Goldman Sachs, AIG and other big banks were allowed to keep bonuses and call their own shots while GM was brought to their knees and forced to declare Chapter 11? GM actually MAKES something and employs a lot of people up and down the line. It's all a metric fuck ton of bullshit.
As for the rest, I would MUCH rather spend money on health care than war. The war is a big lie, like most of them are. They lied about every fucking reason they invaded.
I'm not pointing out your ideology in connection with the war. War is horrible and shouldn't be tolerated no matter what your politics. I'm referring to your blind backing of health care reform bills and president Obama. The sooner people realize Obama serves the same masters on Wall St. that Bush did and the bill is a way to placate the masses while fleecing the nation the sooner we can get to the real business at hand which should be throwing them all out on their asses and reforming our government from the bottom up. Obama is taking marching orders just like Bush did. The country was about to explode the way it was going for 8 years, so they get Obama in there and lull everyone to sleep for a bit longer.
And not everyone is partisan. Some people are able to remain independent and support and vote on issues and candidates regardless of party affiliations.