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Originally Posted by will76
Are you willing to pay for it?
The current bill wants to tax the people who make over 250K to pay for this stuff. If you don't make over 250K, it's easy for you to say we should have this.
If the cost to do this was spread evenly to everyone who makes more than 20K a year, would you still be in favor of it?
If you say NO, well the joke is on you because you can bet that this will trickle down to the middle class.
I just can't understand the logic of penalizing people who work hard and are successful and rewarding the people who are lazy and ignorant. It makes NO sense.
Why reward people for being lazy. Why reward people who are not responsible and blow the money they make. Why reward people for not trying to further educate themselves and drop out of high school. Why reward people for having 5 kids, when they can't afford to have 1. Why reward people who break the laws of this control and come here illegal? Why reward people who receive govt money and then spend it on drugs or gambling?
Why do we take more money from the people who spend years educating themselves, who work their asses off 60-80 hours a week. Who save their money and spend responsibly, who wait till they can afford to have kids, who stay away from drugs, who build successful companies and hire people (CREATE JOBS).
Our whole society is based on giving hand outs and rewarding people for not contributing positively in our society and trying to drag down the people who are making the biggest contributions and have busted their ass with blood sweat and tears to do so.
I just doesn't make any sense. How can anyone with 2 brain cells think that this system is fair, much less in the best interest of EVERYONE. Tearing down the people who contribute so they can give free hand outs to the bottom DOES NOT help the country as a whole prosper int the right direction. People should be held accountable for their actions and if they truly need help, then they can get it. But if they are just lazy and riding the system (like most) they shouldn't be given a penny. Get up off you ass and get a job, be responsible with your money, stop doing drugs, stop having kids you can't afford. As long as they are receiving free money they will have no incentive to change... /rant
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I for one don't have health care but im all for the bill. I spend around $3k a year on cigarettes. Ok so im gonna gonna have to give up smoking and pay for it with im cool with that.
But one group of people that you have not heard much about is the seniors. My wife works for a health care company. They created a special position for her 4 years ago. She contacts seniors and try's to work with the patient and doctor to switch the patient from brand name drugs to generics. Most of these seniors are on 5-10 prescriptions a month an and on social security and need them to live. Her company estimated with the work she has done with this program that seniors are now saving 135k a month on there prescriptions alone.
I just noticed recently that cnn and fox have been mentioning "donut holes"
Donut holes are when Medicaid and such stop paying for prescriptions i believe its at $2830 right now not sure thu. After that the next 4k has to to come out of the patients. Hard to do when you are on a fixed income.
For the last few years over here in Tampa and Pinellas county they put grocery stores on dog food alerts. This usually start around may/june, They tell the cashiers to watch out for seniors buying large amounts of dog food. People are eating it because they spend they money on the prescriptions they need. Im a tough mental guy but just the thought of that just breaks my heart
The bill is not perfect and never will be. The left and right want to different things. Both are jockeying for position for the upcoming terms. I don't agree with some of the bill but in politics you will never get a perfect bill. You have to give up something and things added to a bill you don't want to get that vote you want. Fucked up but that's the way we roll...
