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Old 04-09-2010, 03:15 PM  
Vjo
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Originally Posted by CHMOD View Post
Same here. Maybe tube surfers are too used to free content ? Maybe they tought that my link would offer free content too ?

I have been in the industry for 13 years now. Always have a very good ratio sales\visitors in my niche. Around 1\350

Nowadays it is no better than 1\800... somedays 1\1000.
I just learned that with Tube traffic, it is 0\10 000.


I mean, I was a porn buyer before too. I didn't buy since at least 2 years now.
Why should I buy anymore when I can find all I want for free on tube sites ?

The business schema was perfect before : Tease the surfer until he absolutely needs to buy. Our business was known to be a perfect trap for the surfer looking for free porn. They would end up buying anyway. I have seen many articles and reportage regarding our old business schema.

Today, I read and see reportage on how we are destroying our own industry. I see reportage that XXX is in crisis because there is too much free porn our there.

And there are still some idiots, on this board, pretending that tube sites are great.
Incredible.
Full length movies def took a shit in the traffic pool. Pure and simple. But if you are drinking upstream (run the site) you are ok. They have tons of traffic so yes they make a living but the rest of us see bad conversions.

Tube sites right/wrong.. depends. All traffic is good.

They do open other poss like lots of traffic cheap if you want to join the cj and take a crack at something as you did.

I assume that was skim. Was 0 in 10000 clicked or skim? Blind/skim is almost impossible to see a profit. I have tried believe me. Skim is maybe .2 cents a hit lets say on ave or more. It needs to be 1/2 that. .1 cents a hit tops would allow some margin for guys like me. But hey it is a market and there is someone paying .2 so I am out of luck.

I started a tube a while back. Thing that amazed me most? Super low ctr's. These surfers are where they want to be.

If you skim one from the nest it will head right back to the hive.

You can still use their numbers to your advantage.

But in general that traffic is shit unless it's yours. (at the current prices) (for me)

Some guys with big bank rolls can see a 25% margin and buy at .2 thus killing me who needs a 50% margin min because i aint got the mega roll. Way that game works.

Last edited by Vjo; 04-09-2010 at 03:30 PM..
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