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CosmicTang · 04-13-2010, 12:45 PM

There's no way to accurately predict what would happen in a Constitutional crisis where the country came to the brink of revolt. Maybe the armed forces would fire on their own people, maybe they wouldn't. In 1989 in Tianenmen Square the Chinese military turned on its own people. Two years later in Red Square the Russian military sided with the people and refused to carry out a coup effectively finishing off communist rule and facilitating the demise of the Soviet Union. In both cases the citizenry was unarmed.

I don't know what would happen here. The militias might cave in the face of better trained, better armed military and police forces. Or perhaps seeing the dissenters as plain folk like their families the kids in the military might refuse to fire.

What I do know is that the fact this is starting to happen should give the government pause to think about what its doing to piss off so many people. The militia folks are not without their relevant talking points.

As to the person who suggested we vote and use free speech...you haven't been paying attention. The government is doing what it damn well wants regardless of what the people who pay the bills are screaming for. The people roundly said no to the bailouts and they were granted behind closed doors. They voiced their opinions on health care, and yet again were largely ignored. And the final insult may have been the Supreme Court granting corporations--possibly including foreign ones--the right to spend as much money as they want in campaigns which would determine elections of our representatives. I think it's plain they don't have the people in mind.

So the question becomes: when is it enough?

Clearly the government isn't working for the people anymore and the Constitution is an afterthought to seemingly everyone in D.C. At what point do people have not merely the right, but the responsibility to do something about it?

I would hate to see the situation come to violence but should these bullies and their corrupt and unjust system be allowed to continue while hiding behind the guise of democracy?

Honestly, when is it enough?

04-13-2010, 12:45 PM
CosmicTang Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,478	There's no way to accurately predict what would happen in a Constitutional crisis where the country came to the brink of revolt. Maybe the armed forces would fire on their own people, maybe they wouldn't. In 1989 in Tianenmen Square the Chinese military turned on its own people. Two years later in Red Square the Russian military sided with the people and refused to carry out a coup effectively finishing off communist rule and facilitating the demise of the Soviet Union. In both cases the citizenry was unarmed. I don't know what would happen here. The militias might cave in the face of better trained, better armed military and police forces. Or perhaps seeing the dissenters as plain folk like their families the kids in the military might refuse to fire. What I do know is that the fact this is starting to happen should give the government pause to think about what its doing to piss off so many people. The militia folks are not without their relevant talking points. As to the person who suggested we vote and use free speech...you haven't been paying attention. The government is doing what it damn well wants regardless of what the people who pay the bills are screaming for. The people roundly said no to the bailouts and they were granted behind closed doors. They voiced their opinions on health care, and yet again were largely ignored. And the final insult may have been the Supreme Court granting corporations--possibly including foreign ones--the right to spend as much money as they want in campaigns which would determine elections of our representatives. I think it's plain they don't have the people in mind. So the question becomes: when is it enough? Clearly the government isn't working for the people anymore and the Constitution is an afterthought to seemingly everyone in D.C. At what point do people have not merely the right, but the responsibility to do something about it? I would hate to see the situation come to violence but should these bullies and their corrupt and unjust system be allowed to continue while hiding behind the guise of democracy? Honestly, when is it enough? __________________ ICQ: 456.689.835 julian (at) orgasm (dot) com Last edited by CosmicTang; 04-13-2010 at 12:46 PM..