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Old 04-13-2010, 09:27 PM  
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Originally Posted by kane View Post
I don't disagree with you about the reasons we went there, but I don't think we should have gone. We had no hope of winning this fight. That part of the world has known nothing but unrest and turmoil since the beginning of written history and there is no reason to believe that will ever change. If we pulled every troop out of Iraq today it would only be a matter of time until there was a civil war or a coup and another dictator was put in place.

As for terrorist, sure, we killed some there is no questioning that. I feel for every terrorist we killed we created three. We forget that throughout the middle east the press and media are predominately controlled by the government. We also forget that the education divide and separation of wealth are enormous. So many people there are taught from day one to hate us and they have no way of knowing otherwise. Now they are taught to hate us and they are given the example of us invading a sovereign nation as proof for their hatred. We killed many terrorist and we have others on the run and in 10 years we will be dealing with the hordes of 15 year olds that have spend the last 7 years being taught every day why to hate us and how to kill us.

We can't win in the middle east. You can't reason with people who feel that God loves them and wants them to kill you. You can't spread democracy through the barrel of a gun. We had no chance of winning this and never should have gone. When I hear people say, "We chose to fight them in Iraq instead of on the streets of Baltimore," I laugh. We have had terrorists attacks against this country before and it will happen again. I think they will come at us harder now than in the past because they have a shining example for their hatred.
There are multiple definitions for winning...your definition...some other individuals definition...the government's public definition and then the real definitions. As long as we have a need to keep the oil flowing and we keep the oil flowing...we are indeed winning...using one definition of winning. When the oil in the mid east is gone then they will go back to being nomad camel jockeys and we will not have a need for the mid east or a presence there. Our government is like all governments and only does what it perceives to be in its best interests. We do not...and never have...worn a white hat...but have worn several shades of gray...and on some occasions pretty dark gray.
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