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Old 04-13-2010, 11:40 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ View Post
Instead of dwelling on the past or what "might" happen we will need to focus on the future and aid in a free movement already in motion like you see in Iran. It won't be long before the youth see new cars, clothes, Starbucks, Etc. and then say fuck whipping this donkey and praying to allah because I could actually buy one of these cars if I want and then the best American export kicks in-greed and piles of tangible shit you think you need.

.... I've spend a lot of time in the Middle East starting 25 years ago living on a Kibbutz in Israel then in 2007 when I spent a summer month in Turkey. Meaning, Turkey was the same way and if you go there now the Turks are for damn sure not praying to allah five times a day..

In short, what you're watching in the making of Corporate colonialism- or a market franchise.
This is the best thing we can do. Invading won't work. Wars don't work. We need to identify those who are more progressive and western friendly and support their efforts. Afghanistan is a good example of this. We helped them push the Russians back, but we fucked up the endgame and we failed to support them and provide behind the scenes support for those leaders and the Taliban ended up taking over.

Iran has the largest percentage of population under the age of 35 of any country in the world. Many of those young people want change and want the old guard removed from power. We need to support them and empower them. When other countries see people standing up for themselves and demanding rights and a new government it empowers them. When they see us invading countries it makes them angry.
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