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Old 04-27-2010, 09:45 PM  
gideongallery
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Originally Posted by holograph View Post
Gideon, you haven't answered my questions. i'm not interested in your vcr story, call it ignorance if you want. making one copy for yourself or a friend on a tape does not give you right to distribute it to millions and does not give some random 3rd party to do it without obtaining license for distribute that copy.
but that were the vcr analogy works perfectly
sony didn't obtain a licience to make copies

and btw torrents don't distribute copies they distribute pieces of copies (sampling)
the client put those pieces together.

seeders are committing as much of a copyright infringement as a guy shredding a book and putting it in his garbage.

it the leacher who may or may not be committing a copyright infringement
it depends completle if the act is fair use authorized
if he is one of the 99.5% of the population that own at least 1 tv then downloading such a tv show is in fact the fair use act of timeshifting

if he is not than it is a copyright infringement

like i keep saying

leave the tracker alone
leave the seeder alone
leave the leacher with fair use right alone
go after the leacher without fair use rights

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unlike you I recognize there is an issue with piracy on massive scale and do hope and believe that it will get tougher for pirates to deal on the web with time. i'm sure your VCR rights won't be changed.
you do realize the reason why a torrent recorder is the best pvr is because of the network effect.

every machine in the swarm is a redundant backup for every other machine.
it provides both timeshifting and backup at the same time.
it gives me abilities that a normal pvr doesn't give me
like catching up on shows i didn't realize i would like (like supernatural)
it the 5th season of that show i never watched it even though i paid for it for that entire time.
this year a friend told me to check it out since i was talking about how much i missed buffy and angel and wished they would bring back stories like that.

i torrented all the old episodes, and now space has me as a new viewer.

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Hollywood didn't give PirateBay right to be their redundant backup solution, so who gives them the right, is it instant because you purchased Win7 or Avatar you can share your copy with world on premises of redundant backup? wake the fuck up.
total bullshit statement

microsoft doesn't give permission to seagate to be the backup
if copyright holder had that right microsoft could extend their monopoly on the desktop to sms server and backup solution by simply saying we don't give permission to company x to backup our software

companies would be forced to by microsoft sms server to back up windows desktop.

you don't need permission from the copyright holder to perform fair use services. every copyright holder gave that permission when they accepted the exclusive rights from the government.

That the point

copyright holders are given a special monopoly in exchange for authorizing all fair use rights as not being an infringement of that monopoly.
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