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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER
That isn't right. I think its they don't have to have a reason to ask for your ID but they can't stop you just for the hell of it. They have to have a reason to stop you in the first place. Not just because they saw a Mexican and pulled him over.
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The rest of the country- yes, you are correct.
Arizona, not anymore.
That's what the push back is about.
If I'm walking down the street in AZ as a white girl no ones going to ask me for ID, but any time probable cause is removed from the equasion we all get put at risk. You can't let something that violates civil liberties set precident.
I hear what Jon is saying, most mexicans are just going to get a little hassle and then be on their way, but what if you lost your wallet, or left your ID at home. I've done it.
The difference between then and now is normally a cop wouldn't hassle you for ID unless you were doing something shady, so then if you wound up in a holding tank while they process you for the night you shouldn't have forgot your ID but more importantly you shouldn't have been doing something shady...
The slippery slope is this, if you take probable cause out of the equasion for this you can begin to use if for other scenerios as well. It may seem like it, but it's really not that far of a jump from you're hispanic let me see some id to you have tattoos let me search your car.
Probable cause is a check and ballance and its there for a reason. I cannot support its removal. I don't feel this is a last resort. I think there are more things the state can do that they haven't done.