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Old 05-02-2010, 07:06 AM  
raymor
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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash View Post
When a cop pulls you over or asks for ID they have to have a reason. Your tail light was out, you were speeding, etc.

Arizona law is saying now they don't need a reason.
Someone lied to you. The first thing in the new law is that the police must already
be making a lawful contact with the person for some oner reason. The wording is:

FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS
STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS

After passage of the law, the governor added additional language repeating that point that
the police can not stop someone purely on suspicion of illegal entry to the country. Rather,
if they stop the person for some other reason, they are now allowed to both ask for ID, as
they might have done before, and ACT on the what they learn when they ask for ID. Many
police departments strongly suggest to officers that they ignore the fact that people are here
illegally. Arizona is doing the opposite - telling their police that when they happen to find
out that someone is unlawfully here, the police should treat that just like any other unlawful
act and book the person.

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Christ, just sit across the street from a Home Depot parking lot and follow trucks to the jobsite. Write them a ticket for moving violation for having unseatbelted individuals in the back and follow the trail of crumbs from there.
That's exactly what the Az law envisions, except without the "sit across the street from Home Depot" part.
It tells the cops to "follow the trial of crumbs. Previously, the cop might issue a speeding ticket
to the driver and ignore the 13 people in the back who are almost surely illegal. Now, when the
cop is done with the speeding ticket, he's to ask the thirteen guys in the back for ID.
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