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Old 05-07-2010, 05:41 AM  
Special Ed
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To up and coming paysite ops..

It's sort of a catch 22.. if you can generate traffic to your site at a profit greater than the top 10% of other paysites... then you are a profitable entity and I will be beating down your door. If you cant generate at the profit level of the top 10% you might as well just become an affil (I realize most do both, prog owner and affil) and sell the traffic to the top paysites.

Traffic is a purchased item one way or another.

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It all comes back to the paysite owner creating something for the affil to sell. So you really need affils of course but bottom line, you must create something that sells, not have affils step in and sell your stuff for you. It must be designed at a level that will sell.. today.

Better to spend the money on the tour than anything from my perspective but
hey I am just the affil who looks at you and decides if I can sell you from one thing.. the tours of your sites. Cause that's what the surfer sees.

Guys sit on these boards all day. Take a year off and put the money (wasted here) into a fucken kick ass tour and fresh content on one site. Come back and say look at my fucking tour guys.

I see some good new progs do this. They put it into one or two sites and they can compete with the big boys. And they are having some success. The days of launching lots of sites are laughable.

That is what gets affils. And affils make big money for guys who put their money into fresh, spendy, new tours and content. Even tho there is this anti affil vibe at GFY. The only ones anti are the ones who don't have any.

And yes they better have trailers and prob even some hd by now. Oh oh. I had to go there.

(Not directed at any paysite ops in this thread, just been meaning to bitch about this for a while now

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I rarely spend anytime on the boards. This is a good thread.

I believe that both affiliates and internal traffic are great. Although it would be nice to be a "well known" Amazon company (type in), it can be difficult to create your own. Whether you purchase your traffic from a company (where does it really come from) or create some of your own, there are still costs. Hence, affiliates. At least the traffic that they are sending is specific to the niche.

As an owner, I've formed various relationships with "partners" who offer exclusive content. I've taken their content and optimized it the best way we can. I've hired Dickman's design to do some of our tours and it's helped our affiliates maximize their conversions. I also have a full time designer that is rather gifted in his field and understands how this business operates. Hard to get that out of a designer these days.
www.SheMuscleGym.com
www.GangBangDee.com

One unique way of creating your own internal traffic are the domains that you choose to begin with. Pick something that will be SEO friendly. I get more type in traffic from friendly SEO domain names than most.

www.RealTampaSwingers.com
www.ILoveSmallTits.com

Great thread!
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