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Old 05-15-2010, 10:22 AM  
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My bad. I assumed you would want to stop piracy throughout the world. Clearly, if you do not do this, then piracy doesn't stop. You can use the internet to connect to servers on other countries. Maybe you haven't thought your position through. Pal.
I don't want to stop piracy through-out the world, I'm just posting about the fight going on in congress right now and how it can effect piracy today. Why are you taking this so personal? I get a crack out of people who defend piracy to the death, makes you wonder what kind of sites they're operating..

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These include a FBI estimate that US businesses lose $200 to $250 billion annually due to counterfeiting. These figures were originally found in a FBI press release, but the agency, "has no record of source data or methodology for generating the estimate." "

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/articl...s_ga o_report

You see, All the other content producing industries act like ours does about piracy. Yet they are all making record sales.
Interesting, but I don't think it's a conspiracy. I look at the alexa ratings for torrent, file sharing forums and I put two and two together. Piracy is costing these industries billions, how can they NOT be?

Warez-bb.org
Traffic rank - http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/warez-bb.org - 487

Pornhub.com
Traffic rank - http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/pornhub.com - 54

Youporn.com
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/youporn.com# - 62

ThePiratebay - 100
Isohunt - 200


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So maybe, just maybe, it isn't copyright infringement that has fucked porn. Maybe we fucked it ourselves with bad business practises. Shady xsells. Circle jerks. Dialiers. Poor customer service and frankly, bad products?
Well I agree that the shady business practices have definitely fucked this industry, but to say the huge availability of full length free porn hasn't affected it is absurd.


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Love to read a citation from the ISPs asking if they can please filter their customers' internet service.

Let's assume, rather than make money selling internets, they want to spend any money policing them for the government. So, how do they pay for the infrastructure? Putting consumers bills up! How else? Brilliant so far. So everyone has to pay more for their internet. It gets better... How do they determine what is copyright infringement and what isn't? They would have to do low level packet analysis. So that means any privacy you had is gone. There will be a team at your ISP searching through EVERY PACKET of data you have to see if THEY THINK it MIGHT be infringing copyright. Then of course, there is the tricky situation with open wifi, spoofed IPs, etc etc.

Do you see? Even if they catch you, they then have to prove the person paying for the internet connection was responsible for downloading a file that is CLAIMED to be copyrighted. Then you would have to prove he DID download it. And it IS what it claims to be.

Jesus. Can you imagine that process?
You're not understanding how it works. The ISP isn't going to do a "packet analysis", they're going to do what THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN CAUGHT DOING! Filtering traffic, they have the ability to shutdown the ability for people to access entire sites, EASILY. Do some reading man, seriously..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21376597/

http://gizmodo.com/5052628/comcast-o...r-your-traffic

http://www.savetheinternet.com/

How far fetched is it now? The biggest ISP in the United States has already been caught doing it!

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You can never stop piracy. Denting it is pointless. OK, close rapidshare. Who cares? Did closing Napster kill music piracy? No. In fact, the high profile court cases only prove time and time again to INCREASE awareness of how easy it is to pirate stuff and therefore increase piracy.

Spend your time worrying about something you might be able to change. IMHO.

Have a lovely saturday. I'm off to do the gardening
You have a comprehension problem, LOL. This isn't talking about a high profile court case, or closing a single site like rapidshare or what happened with Napster. This is about the possibility of the LAW changing, the internet CHANGING. Go read about what's going on congress, go read about the on-going fight to protect Network neutrality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality
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