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Originally Posted by Rochard
I don't understand the issue with this law.
It's pretty simple. If I live in California and I get pulled over by the CHP, and the officer smells booze.... I got pulled over for a ticket, but the officer thought there might be a much larger crime committed so he started asking questions. This is called "common sense".
Now, if your a police officer in Arizona and you pull over a car with four Mexicans in it, not one of them speaks English, and not one of them can produce any US ID.... Well, it's common fucking sense that all of them are here illegally and all of them have broken some pretty serious fucking federal laws.
This law doesn't mean the local pigs will be hanging out in the parking lot of Home Depot trying to arrest illegals ( although they should ).
This is a fucking joke already. Two decades ago I worked in a fucking Taco Bell in Northern California, just north of San Francisco. Once a month the Border Patrol would walk in, full uniform, and over half the staff would go running out the back door - right in the arms of a dozen officers waiting with a truck.
Some chick got pulled over in Phoenix and is fighting her deportation. She's a student. And I'm a little confused. She was driving a car that wasn't registered, wasn't insured, and she was driving without a license. I'm a US citizen, and if I do this I'm in big trouble. This doesn't take into account all of the other crimes she's commited - being in the US on an expired Visa, not paying taxes (she must have a job to support herself), and then lieing to her land lord and the college she was attending.
What happens when she hits another car without insurance? How many times has this woman been to the ER jacking up my fucking medical insurance?
At what point do we say "This is illegal" and put a fucking stop to it?
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The worry some people have about the law is that it will require legal immigrants to carry their papers on themselves 24/7. Now, in theory, this isn't that big of a deal because they should only be questioned by the police of the are suspected of doing something illegal. However, we could end up with a situation similar to what recently happened in Illinois. A guy was taken into custody because he was suspected of being illegal. He was held for 48 hours by the police before immigration officials got there and they held him for another 48. Meanwhile his mom took his birth certificate to the immigration officials to show that he was legal and they basically ignored her. Eventually, after 4 days, he was released.
So now if you are of Mexican decent, but you were born in the US and are a US citizen and you are riding in a car with someone who gets pulled over and you don't have any ID on you, they can arrest you, take you jail and hold you for multiple days until they determine that you are not illegal. Maybe it will be just a few hours and as soon as they either drive you to your house to get your ID or you have someone bring it in all will be fine, but for some maybe it will be days, either way it would piss me off.
This is why some people are worried. Obviously, there are going to be some pretty cut and dry cases where the people are clearly illegal and those people should be detained and deported. But I would be willing to bet they will end wrongly arresting and detaining a few people the state will end up with some big lawsuits against them.
For me, I am just wary of any law that requires someone to carry papers on them 24/7. To me is sets a bad precedence and sends us down a road that might be hard to turn back from.