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raymor · 06-02-2010, 10:19 AM

Obviously, "unlimited" disk space does not mean you can use 10TB and
"unlimited" bandwidth does not mean you can use 10TB / month and it
never will mean you can use a whole lot. Someone asked if unlimited means
unlimited "these days". No, it never will. So what does "unlimited" mean?
It simply means "we're not going to tell you what the limits are".

To keep the lawyers happy, they sometimes measure the limits in a weird way,
like measuring I/0 in place of bandwidth, which is another way to avoid being
clear about what the limits are. One popular "unlimited" host who advertises on
TV limits the number of visitors who can be on your site at a time. Sure, you can
use unlimited bandwidth, but when they only allow three simultaneous visitors
you're never going to use much bandwidth.

Naked may be a fine company, and I'm not picking on them, but since that
was the company the OP asked about, we'll use them as an example. They
say they'll cut you off if you're using too much CPU. They won't tell you how
much CPU you're allowed. Unlimited means "we're not going to tell you what
the limits are". They'll cut you off if you have some traffic and therefore access
the disk "too much". How much is "too much? "Unlimited" means they won't
tell you how much is too much. Further, if you have several visitors on at once,
that'll use more RAM, and they'll cut you off for that. How many visitors are you
allowed to have, using how much RAM? "Unlimited" means they aren't going to
tell you until it's too late.

If you replace the word "unlimited" with what it really means, it's obvious how
silly this all is:
Traffic allowed: we're not telling. You'll see when we cut you off.
Disk usage allowed: we're not telling. You'll find out when we cut you off.
Scripts allowed: we're not telling. You'll know when we shut you down for CPU usage.

As the representative from Naked acknowledged, that's no way to run a
professional site. If you're trying to run a business, you need to know what
you're buying, and know that it will fit your needs. Most sites don't need a
dedicated server, but they do need a shared account which they know will
allow them to serve whatever bandwidth they need with appropriate speed,
one they know will allow them to run the scripts they need to run, etc. If this
is a business to you, "guess how much we'll allow" is plain silly.

06-02-2010, 10:19 AM
raymor Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,745	Obviously, "unlimited" disk space does not mean you can use 10TB and "unlimited" bandwidth does not mean you can use 10TB / month and it never will mean you can use a whole lot. Someone asked if unlimited means unlimited "these days". No, it never will. So what does "unlimited" mean? It simply means "we're not going to tell you what the limits are". To keep the lawyers happy, they sometimes measure the limits in a weird way, like measuring I/0 in place of bandwidth, which is another way to avoid being clear about what the limits are. One popular "unlimited" host who advertises on TV limits the number of visitors who can be on your site at a time. Sure, you can use unlimited bandwidth, but when they only allow three simultaneous visitors you're never going to use much bandwidth. Naked may be a fine company, and I'm not picking on them, but since that was the company the OP asked about, we'll use them as an example. They say they'll cut you off if you're using too much CPU. They won't tell you how much CPU you're allowed. Unlimited means "we're not going to tell you what the limits are". They'll cut you off if you have some traffic and therefore access the disk "too much". How much is "too much? "Unlimited" means they won't tell you how much is too much. Further, if you have several visitors on at once, that'll use more RAM, and they'll cut you off for that. How many visitors are you allowed to have, using how much RAM? "Unlimited" means they aren't going to tell you until it's too late. If you replace the word "unlimited" with what it really means, it's obvious how silly this all is: Traffic allowed: we're not telling. You'll see when we cut you off. Disk usage allowed: we're not telling. You'll find out when we cut you off. Scripts allowed: we're not telling. You'll know when we shut you down for CPU usage. As the representative from Naked acknowledged, that's no way to run a professional site. If you're trying to run a business, you need to know what you're buying, and know that it will fit your needs. Most sites don't need a dedicated server, but they do need a shared account which they know will allow them to serve whatever bandwidth they need with appropriate speed, one they know will allow them to run the scripts they need to run, etc. If this is a business to you, "guess how much we'll allow" is plain silly. __________________ For historical display only. This information is not current: support@bettercgi.com ICQ 7208627 Strongbox - The next generation in site security Throttlebox - The next generation in bandwidth control Clonebox - Backup and disaster recovery on steroids