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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head
What else would you like call it? It's our law, but why do you think someone that has so little to lose and everything to gain would or should give a damn about the border-crossing "law"?
"Because it's the law, that's why."
They don't care.
"Well, they should."
But they don't. And it's pretty damn obvious by the numbers of illegals here. So pushing your "law" or "morals" on them is a losing ineffective plan all around. It doesn't work, and it never will.
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So you're saying we can't secure the border? You were in the military, you know we can, some people may not like it, but we can do it.
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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head
1. I am not "backing" an illegal alien. Technically he wasn't an illegal since he was on Mexico's turf, not ours. He was a perfectly legit Mexican citizen (as far as immigration status is concerned) in his own territory.
2. Border Patrol has no business shooting across the border. This isn't a fucking game.
3. There are consequences for stuff like this. You want Mexican's to stop attacking the BP, fix the problem instead of hating on Mexicans. They are doing what they need to do to survive, the same as anyone else in that position would do. If I was starving and had no prospect for the future, you bet your ass I'd be crossing that border. BP is nothing more than a bureaucratic obstacle when your life is at stake.
Either get the BP out of there and put someone in that can secure the border 100% with a shoot-to-kill policy, up front and known to everyone, or fix Mexico so this shit becomes a non-issue. BP is clearly out of their league at this stage. Mexico will not "fix" themselves. The only way this works is if we work together or go fully militant against Mexico.
Supporting the actual men & women doing the job is good, and I do. But it is also completely irrelevant to the bigger picture.
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We don't know all the facts, probably never will, it's a war zone there and should be treated as such, using a weapon, either a rock or an AK-47, should be met with extreme prejudice, that can't be tolerated. When I was a bartender and a fight broke out, I hit the bigger of the two and that stopped the fight, I was doing so to protect the other customers.
Violence works, remember the freeways shootings of the late 80's? Everyone started driving politely, it's kinda funny really. I had a tank for truck and would have just plowed into an car shooting at me
As far as Mexico's problem, they are just that, Mexico's problems, we tried to fix it in 94 by bailing them out with 20 billion dollars and getting them a total of 50 billion, they too fucked up to fix.