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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head
Yeah, I know we can secure it. But not with an improperly equipped, under-staffed agency who has no real clear goal, just a vague mission that is bigger than themselves. You don't need me to tell you that the BP is ineffective. The millions of illegals already here are testament to that fact.
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Yeah too bad we have had no presidents with the balls to do something about it, instead they beef up airport security and tell us we are safer, bull shit
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I have to disagree entirely. Violence does not work. Violence begets more violence. Gang violence doesn't decrease when a rival gang is attacked. Prison violence doesn't decrease when a skinhead gets shanked. The Taliban is not putting together fruit baskets for us, they're trying to kill us.
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That's different on all accounts, you're talking religion with those, gangs are their own religion, Taliban, same thing, Prisons? Think you're reaching.
Want to stop the gangs, send the illegal aliens back to Mexico and that will stop over half of the problem, want to stop the Taliban, shoot a group of them in a pig pit and let them rot, they can't get into heaven
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I'm not a diplomat or a politician. But Mexico's problems are also our problems. We live next to them, they're crosssing our border, living in our country, etc, etc, etc... that makes it our problem. Maybe '94 wasn't the right time. Maybe $50 billion wasn't enough. How much did we give AIG? BOA? GM? Fannie Mae? Freddie Mac? All the others? Maybe they thought throwing money at it alone would work, when it needs more thought out planning and cooperation and coordination. I don't know. But I refuse to believe that we can't work with Mexico in some way to bring them up to our standards and eliminate this shit. We don't have a border war with Canada do we? Do you think that might be because the Canadians are not living in abject poverty? Or just because they're "nice people"?
I believe it's worth trying whatever it takes to make it work. This is our border and our country we're talking about. We can either do it peacefully, or fuck it up and militarize it. Which do you prefer?
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Mexico is not our problem, we have done more for that country than any other, the main purpose, at least that was the selling point, of NAFTA was for that, but they fucked that up. Now we are suffering and we need to just secure the border. If we moved all the military training their, I mean it's just like Iraq, that would curb a lot of it, too bad we don't have president with balls!!