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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head
Anyway, this was still a great discussion thread V. I enjoyed it and thank you for your point of view. Ultimately, nothing is going to change until the people in Washington decide to change it. (one way or the other). Things like the new law in AZ and shooting a rock-throwing kid on the other countries turf only fuels more hatred and tensions on both sides, they are not a solution. They are a bandaid on a severed femoral artery.
The border wars will continue, more agents will be killed, more Mexicans will be killed, more US citizens will be killed and ransomed, and the drug lords just keep getting richer, smarter, and better armed. And nothing will change. It will only continue to get worse. No one wants to listen, and too many people don't realize what it is they're wishing for.
Wish for a permanently militarized nation, we just might get it. There's no going back after we do that. Our sons and daughters will be assigned to tours of duty on the border for generations to come. Mexico will have to reciprocate, kick all of our people out of Mexico (also millions), and arm their side of the border with their military as well.
The future is not bright. Too many people feel that Mexico "isn't our problem", and the only solution is more guns. So the only option left available is a police state. Then it becomes "our problem" forever. Get used to the phrase, "Vhere ah your papers?."
Oh, we'll be secure then, no doubt. And we'll also be the hypocritical assholes of the world, just like the crazies out there have been saying all along. The US promote peace & democracy? Yeah right... with a border no different than East Berlin a few decades ago. It goes against everything we stand for.
Wasn't it Reagan that said, "Tear down that wall."
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Yeah, Reagan said it 20 years ago. I was in the Indian Ocean when he took office off the coast of Iran. I have nothing but love for Reagan, My daughter is serving on the USS Ronald Reagan. She got a ribbon for humanitarian efforts in the philippines. It's amazing what that ship is capable of.
Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986, but you know where that ended up, not enforced. I can't think of anything a president has really done about it since. I blame them all for it, not just Obama, although he's not handling it worth a shit, I'm still pissed about letting the Mexican President Bash Arizona law in congress, I would have stood up and asked that asshat about his immigration laws.
Right now a lot of people are pissed, people are getting together in groups like the Tea Party, and I love that.
I can only hope that their movement stays and it makes a difference, getting the government to listen to the people or find another job
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that