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Originally Posted by kane
And we are off the topic once again.
I would argue making the content available worldwide on a torrent would reduce my rebills. If they can get it for free, they won't pay.
My traffic is not a form of media and therefore not covered by copyright. Traffic is a person. If I am suggesting a site to them and they join the site I get a commission.
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the swarm is just a network of people so that arguement is bullshit too.
the torrent is just a pointer to the location of the copyright material on a particular machine
by that arguement it just traffic too and should be immune to copyright law
you pointing a person to a tour modified by my training would still exploit my copyright material. Your getting the sale BY USING my copyright material.
if anything torrent sites are even more indirect since they don't point to the copyright material they point to a file that tells the computer how to setup a session that creates a network that points to non working pieces of the copyright file which the computer later on puts in the right order so it would work.
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If somehow that relationship changed and I was no longer going to get a commission, I would send them to other sites that would give me a commission.
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and that is your choice, i am simply saying if you send traffic to someone who liciences my techniques, you give me permission to declare your sales invalid (just like want to invalidate the torrent sales of movie theaters copyright material)
because as i have repeatedly said copyright law doesn't allow me to extend my monopoly to things outside the scope of the distribution of the content (like medium, or traffic)
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You didn't create the traffic so you have no right to it therefore you cannot claim a monopoly on it.
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again the movie theaters didn't create the torrent site traffic either. In fact the very act of refusing to support the medium absolutely prevents any connection to the creation of the traffic.
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As I said, you are all over the map. This entire discussion has been about movies, yet you insist on talking about everything but movies.
I'm done with this topic. You are free to go back to figuring out all the loopholes in the laws that allow you to take other people's content for free. You don't need to convince me.
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your the one that is making up one rule for yourself an another for torrent sites.
your the one who claims that movie theaters should have a right to void the use of their content on medium if they want.
but that if i want to void your sale because i didn't give you permission use my techniques (my copyright material) that not allowed.
i am saying quite clearly the copyright law as currently stated makes both voiding wrong.
so the only way i could legally do the second is if you personally agree to the abuse
you said you would, now you are back peddling, trying to make up bogus justifcations that apply equally well (if not better) for the traffic sources you want to censored.