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Old 06-23-2010, 12:09 AM  
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During the campaign he said some very specific things that seemed to resonate during the debates:

He said he would speak directly with our enemies. That it didn't make any sense to isolate them and NOT talk to them. That it was a failed policy that hadn't worked in half a century. Hell, that made sense to me. Why not? And of course he fell right in line when he became president and never did that.
Either his staff or himself has done this, he was railed for it, called inexperienced for it. And don't forget, not all countries are willing to talk.

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He said he was going to bring home the troops. That our troops over there made no sense anymore. A LOT of people got excited about that. Of course he changed course when he became prez.
You may want to read up on what he said again... His focus was the Iraq war and pulling combat troops out, then moving them to Afgan and fighting the Taliban rather than fighting a war with Afgan. He never said he was going to stop the wars and bring the troops home that I can recall.

Ron Paul was the only one preaching that.

Edit: Saw this, has a bit about the Iraq War promise: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ects/military/

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Not real interested in what any of us think about the reasoning behind it. Fact is, he campaigned on these kinds of things...you know real CHANGE. I voted for him on that basis. He SOUNDED like somebody who made common sense and was going to actually do something.
To be fair to the man, he made it very clear that the war in afgan was going to continue on.

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When you campaign on some big issues like that and then turn around and do a bail out for banks and pretend that health care was your major issue during the campaign...that's just lying.
Don't let the talking points confuse you... those bailouts were already signed when he took office.

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In hindsight he appears to have been a terrific campaigner, a complete non-starter on "change", and a below average leader.
Of course, I voted for Bush too. So I'm 2 for 2 now.
That's very possible... but I'm willing to give him a few more years before I make that judgment.
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