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Originally Posted by GatorB
Hey Einstein how passes the term limits laws? Even if Congress passes it all it takes is ONE guy to fight it in court. The only way it would get passed if it's passed as Constitutional Amendment.
Also it doesn't need change the PEOPLE vote for these guys so it's the PEOPLE that are the problem. Everyone talks about about how Congress is bad but 95% of incumbents win re-election. I see a HUGE disconnect there. Because people don't think that "Congress is bad" they think "Congress is bad EXCEPT for MY guy". At the end of the day YOU have control over YOUR representative so if you want change you need to vote YOUR guy out. If everyone did that the problem would be solved. But everyone thinks it's the OTHER guy this is the problem.
Also pork is bad as long as it goes to someone else. Show me a guy that cuts a pork project for his district and I'll show you a guy not getting re-elected. Even though most of the people in his district are supposedly anti-pork and believes the budget needs to be trim and the deficit reduced. Once again it's disconnect with the PEOPLE.
The problems in DC are not a result of a problem with politicians it's problem with VOTERS. Until the PEOPLE realize that THEY are why things in DC are fucked up and realize they are fucking ignorant dolts then things aren't going to change.
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Hey Einstein! (I assume you meant this as a compliment since I said nothing that would warrant you insulting me)
I'm well aware of the fact that it would take a constitutional amendment, the same way we put term limits on the presidency in 1951, and I agree with a lot of your points, BUT...
A big problem is that once people are elected and become part of the machine they have access to MASSIVELY bigger resources than someone trying to compete with the incumbent. Those resources allow for a huge amount of branding, and name recognition is a large part of the election process, particularly in non-presidential elections.
If you read the federalist papers you will see that it was NEVER the founders intent that someone serve for 50 years, or anything close to it. You were supposed to represent your community, and then go back to your home and business. The fact that we have all of these laws and taxes that are never applied to career politicians themselves makes me ill.
It takes a 2/3rds majority to pass the amendment, and personally, I have been working towards only electing people that will vote to pass it.
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