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Old 06-30-2010, 03:57 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla View Post
The anger I have for Illegal aliens stems from about 20 years ago. So I've been pissed about this for a long time, not just during bush, this was the one thing that Reagan did that I didn't understand.
The answer is simple BTW, put up a fence, patrol it. Then we can deal with the illegal immigrants we have here, I'm ok with work programs that lead to citizenship, not ok with anchor babies

Grew up in LA, I grew up around latino families, I love the culture, hate the music, one of my favorite places to go to in LA is Alvera Street. I learned spanish in the 6th grade.
I just have a major problem with people from other countries taking advantage of our system, we have to pay for that. When my daughter was going to thru school, budgets got cut to pay for more school breakfasts and lunches. More text books were needed in other languages. A lot of the kids I saw going to my daughters school I would have questioned their immigration status. I saw this as a drain on the California school system.
Recently I saw my nephew move from a good California School to a great Penn. school, they figured out he had a learning disability that the California school missed. See they didn't have the lack of funding, they didn't have all the people living on the system.

Basically, if they want to become citizens, learn the language, get a job, don't commit any crimes, but if you're here to be a burden to the rest of us, Fuck you and stay where you are. Put up the fence and protect the US citizens above all else
I can share your anger. The town I live has two grade schools. One of them teaches K-3rd grade in half spanish so that they can help the spanish speaking kids learn english. If I go to the urgent care medical center almost all of the people in the waiting room are Mexican and you know many of them are illegal and won't be paying their bill. And these are just a few examples of many.

Like you, I have no problem with individual people. I know a lot of Mexicans who work hard, are good people and that I really like and feel add something great to our society. But there are a ton that do as you say and sneak in, drop out an anchor baby and leech off the system.

For me this is part of the solution:
1. Change the law that states if you are born in the US you are a US citizen. This will get rid of the anchor babies.
2. build a wall. A big fucking wall.
3. Create an MOS in the military, or make guarding that wall/protecting the border part of a regular rotation through the military so we have a ton of people on that wall watching that ground and patrolling.
4. Figure out what to do with those who are here. If they are good people with skill/ability to work and add to society then we can work towards making them a citizen. If they are criminals/not interested in working/leeches, they gotta go.
5. Put rules/laws in place that lay hefty fines or severe punishment for those who knowingly hire illegals.

To me this will go a long ways towards curbing the problem.
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