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Old 07-05-2010, 03:53 PM  
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For someone who argues so fervently, you need to read up on legal immigration to the United States. Simply put, it is not an easy process, and you don't get to live and work in the United States if your only hope of employment is unskilled or partially skilled work. For a Canadian to be granted access to live and work in the United States, they must have an appropriate education (usually requiring a bachelors degree) in a specific field. Usually, these fields are science, medical, and a few others.

Basically, you must be able to work in a field that requires lots of qualifications. What does this mean? It means that there aren't enough Americans who are educated enough to fill these jobs, which means it's time to bring in people who are. I couldn't move the united states to be a municipal worker, or a truck driver, or an auto mechanic. Because there are plenty of Americans who do that and who are qualified to do so. I could, however, move to the Unitd States to be a pharmacist, a landscape architect, or an English teacher. Because people with those skills are lacking in the US. In order to work a job/career in the United States, I must:

1) Have education (bachelors degree, usually) in a specific field.

2) There can not be any Americans with the same education credentials who are also trying to get the same job. If there are, they get it, I don't.

3) The employer must submit documentation stating that you are working for them. If the company goes under, or you get laid off, or fired, you can not simply get another job to make ends meet. You have to work in the same field, and have the new company submit new documentation indicating that you now work for them.

4) If the industry collapses, or jobs are not available, you go back to your own country. Like I said above, I can't leave my job as a landscape architect or english teacher to work at a grocery store.

Living and working in the US means that you have skills that Americans don't have, or there is a shortage of people who have those skills. That's it. That is the only way you can legally work in the united states, at least if you are an every-man. There are different rules and regs, but they only apply to the top 1% of the population, wealth wise.

You can be granted permanent residence in the United States if you invest in, or create a company that employs 10 americans for (I believe) a minimum of 2 years. If, after 2 years, you still have 10 americans employed, you are granted residence status. If the company folds after a year, you're out of luck, thanks for trying.

Cliffs: The only reason people who aren't american work and live in the united states, is because there are not enough Americans with the skills to fill the jobs. You don't live and work there if you're going to be a cashier at a grocery store.


ME? I'm working on my bachelors, and I plan on relocating the united states within 5 years. The field im studying has nearly no prospects in the United States. Most people in the field, are from somewhere else.
You are pretty dead on.


My best friend of 20 years came to this country from England and over stayed his welcome. He had a social security card with his name on it and also had "not valid for work" stomped on it. He needed that to get his Drivers license.

This guy tried and tried to get his Green card. Denied, denied over and over. With what he did, our country had tons what he did thats why he was getting denied.


This guy did construction, drywalling+plastering and before that, he served soft served yogurt because there was no work. This guy had the very best work ethic out of anyone i have ever met. I used to call him the "white Mexican".

Long story short, He saved his money, he paid taxes, some how got a tax return, bought 5 different properties, flipped them and cashed out when they were prime and made a shitload. Hired a attorney after 911,(was that much more difficult to get into this country after 911) to set up his paper work to come into the United states as a $500K investor.


The tricky part was leaving the country back to England to not show that he ever over stayed his welcome. So he left through Mexico back to his port of entry which was England.

When he came back to the US, customs saw according to their records that he never left the US. But since he went back to England he had a new passport with no stamps and had all of his paper work in order stating he was a serious investor with money already in US banks. The US customs saw that oversight as their mistake and they welcomed him with open arms.


Was it right? Nope. Did he make it right? Yup.


At the end of the day, this guy has over 1 million liquid in the bank, and owns 2 apartment buildings and pays a butt load in US taxes. This is what our country wants. It is kind of lame that it is that difficult to get into this country.


I do know that it can be very difficult to get into this country, but the rules are the rules.
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