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Originally Posted by CrkMStanz
your arguements are still moronic giddyboy
Disney made it their own - they did the work, funded the production, paid all the salaries, did original animations, altered the storyline, distributed, and yes - profited from THEIR work
Disney DID NOT just grab the Grimm text (or any other complete unabridged or unedited work) slap their name on it, surround it with advertising and sell it.
Disney used a public domain work and made it their own, establishing their own copyright for THEIR work, NOT for the 'original unedited story' - anyone can 'remake it' by doing the work, funding the production, pay all the salaries, do original animations (or make it live action), alter the storyline, distribute, and yes - profit from THEIR work - because it becomes a new ORIGINAL work.
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now imagine if the grimm version that disney had used as the bases was removed from the public domain
disney film would still be non fair use derivation (it not a parody, and they are directly profiting by selling it)
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Your plan is to just grab Disneys movie print of Snow White, slap it on a torrent with ads to your vendors and call it a day.
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nope not my plan
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What we (The actual content producers of the world) are arguing for is an exclusive right to distribute/sell OUR own work - and will accept a limited time frame to do it in even - but the important part is EXCLUSIVE (but limited time)
Your plan is that copyright grants us an 'exclusive' right to do so but our exclusive rights only last as long as it takes to post the work - after that its an automatic free-for-all for anyone who wants to profit from it -
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again nope not my plan
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they don't have to re-work it, comment on it, or do anything at all to it - just post and surround by ads.
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again the exact opposite i simply want the re-worked, commented , parody protected.
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we aren't asking for much - crap, I'd take 2 years of exclusive, backed by full governmental laws and policing.
none of this bullshit DMCA 'I have to personally catch the 100K websites doing it and send a notice politely asking them to stop please, and I have to do it for each link they provide, and I have to do it again tomorrow because they just re-up it'
I want to see a central worldwide reporting system backed by 3 strikes that extends to uploaders, site owners, hosts, ISP's and everyone else involved in the theiving scam pirate world.
again... just for emphasis
fuck you 
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i don't have a problem with that as long as if the consequence of you sending a false notice to take down fair use (parody, commentary etc) all your copyrights become null and void.
If you lose every copyright the second you make a "mistake" i have no problem with you having that type of power.
if you want to have that power with no consequence when you abuse it well then
fuck you
because guarrenteed it will be abused and copyright holders will simply claim the censorship of taking down fair use was just an "accident"