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Old 07-17-2010, 04:13 PM  
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What I was referring to is how you appear to dissemble whenever you are faced with a straightforward question.

Someone else (not me) inferred that you/Virage owned Envisionext at one time, and you indignantly responded that you did not. I did not dispute this, as I have no proof either way. What I noted (and documented) is that you had more than a friendship relationship with the CEO of Envisonext - nothing illegal about that, I just thought that it was odd that you didn't mention this corporate connection in the interest of full disclosure.

To re-phrase it, what I called into question is that your answer seemed to imply no relationship between you and Envisionext besides a long-term fraternal association with the Envisonext CEO Stan, when in fact, he was apparently a COO (Chief Operating Officer) of Virage, which you neglected to mention.

I'm not sure what names you think I called you, since I rarely do that without absolute proof (23,000+ posts with no bans here - I do try to keep my ducks in a row).

I'm just simply trying to understand who is behind your apparently new company on the scene, Manwin.

I thought it was a partnership. After all, you describe yourself as a "Managing Partner".

The Business Dictionary defines a "Managing Partner" thusly:

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The highest formal job title given to a senior partner in charge of a firm's overall practice, management and day-to-day operations. A managing partner is roughly equivalent to a chief executive officer of a corporation in terms of duties and responsibilities, however they manage a partnership and not a corporation.
A Partnership is defined as:

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Type of business organization in which two or more individuals pool money, skills, and other resources, and share profit and loss in accordance with terms of the partnership agreement.
So are you a Managing Partner (as defined) or not?

If you are, who are your partners?

The reason I, and possibly others, are skeptical about Manwin is that you have suddenly appeared on the scene posing as a new company and self-proclaimed savior of the adult industry, but you do not wish to discuss your past businesses and practices (i.e., Virage), and you expect people to take a leap of faith that a company as flawed as Mansef (see government forfeiture and lawsuit articles previously addressed, but which you did not respond to), has suddenly turned over a new leaf by changing three letters in their company name, and your appearance as the new Managing Partner, or Messiah, or whatever you see yourself as.

I've violated no GFY rule which I am aware of. This is a forum for expressing opinions, exchanging ideas, or as this forum is listed - "Fucking Around and Program Discussion".

I'm pretty sure that I am well within those parameters.

I am merely sharing some thoughts, and trying to get some answers, since you are asking people/companies to trust you, yet from what I can see, you have proved less than trustworthy so far.

Since you are now seemingly claiming to be (by definition) a Corporation with shareholders, instead of a Partnership (even though your title is Managing Partner), who then is on your Corporate Board of Directors?

I want to trust you, but imho you keep being evasive instead of forthright. That raises warning flags to me.



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ADG,

I use "Managing Partner" because of the fact that I am a shareholder (ie Partner) and I manage parts of the business actively. This compared to a CEO who I am not, or any other job title...

This title thus implies, or is supposed to at least, that I am a shareholder but I am involved in day to day operations too without being an actual CEO for example since I have someone in for example Canada who is much better at that than me...

The term possibly is a bad choice from me as I am German originally and possibly have it Lost in Translation...

I think I am being more than fair in reply to accusations, some of which are just ridiculous. I have learned a long time ago that a lot of things are useless to discuss on a message board, especially as soon as strange accusations start appearing which are useless to discuss since the people they are coming from are never going to believe anything anyway, AND even more importantly, I have no obligation to satisfy anyone's lust for information...

I have explained what I wanted to explain, said what I wanted to say, now as some have already said, you will have to judge for yourself if I deliver on what I have said or not...
So a guy who doesn't know the difference between a partnership and a corporation suddenly walks in and says he plunked down $140 million to buy a corrupt company, without him naming his associates in his enterprise, and we're supposed to accept as truth all that he says (even though several posts in this thread have exposed him as being less than truthful).

Still some people fail to see through his stonewalling refusal to answer simple questions.

Whatever happened to performing due diligence to know who is behind the company you are considering to do business with (and not just a single mouthpiece)? I swear, you guys would have loved Bernie Maddoff...

It's like sheep being led to a slaughter (the sheep are content to eat the food that is fed to them, and it temporarily fattens them up, but only too late do they realize their ultimate fate):



This industry never ceases to amaze me...

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