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Old 07-20-2010, 04:18 PM  
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If making money matters to you more than the fact that stolen full length clips are responsible for driving the traffic that is makling you that money, then you'll do whatever you have to in order to justify it to yourself in your own mind.

It may not be technically illegal, but it's ethically deplorable. It's dirty money. Spin it however you want, but it still boils down to making money from the use of stolen content.

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lol, you are the one spinning everything and just for the convenience of trying to insult us. I don't consider that to be unethical, unless of course your goal is to discredit us through unsubstantiated and false assertions, but I do think you are being a dick.

However, you are right about one thing... it is not, under current US laws "illegal", and while you may deplore the fact that people post the content and consider it unethical, under the circumstances I only find it to be unethical if the tube site doesn't take down anything that we notice them about when necessary. What makes our views about the "ethics" of the situation different in so far as you can claim to be "right" while I am somehow "wrong"? Clearly, if it is not illegal, then how is it unethical if we take advantage of the traffic our clips generate? Because you don't like them? You don't like the big bad tubes? Cry me a river. Maybe when you get off your pedestal of reactionary arrogant accusatory insulting posturing and lose the holier than thou aura you will see the situation more clearly.

My position is based on facts. I don't know for a fact who puts up our clips without authorization. I consider it unethical to blame someone, based so far on circumstantial and not factual evidence, which also happens to be the standard for the US legal system. For us it is a fact that if our clips went up without persmission then they were taken down promptly with notice. That might make the situation a pain in the ass but it is not necessarily unethical. If we figured out how to turn that negative into a positive then that doesn't make us unethical either; business-wise, that simply makes us pragmatic.

I suggest you crack open the books again to learn what "ethics" really are. If it makes you feel better then you can tell me a great big "i told you so" if Pink Visuals prevails. I already said before though that my hunch is that will only result in a settlement that will be in Pink Visuals interests and not yours, mine, or anyone elses. Is that unethical? No, that is what we call business as usual.
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