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Originally Posted by Far-L
Tell you what. Show me the proof of them "stealing" content and I will be happy to agree with you. In the absence of such proof, you are simply entitled to your opinion like everyone else. In my opinion, you don't really know what ethics are in the first place, and in the second place, your assumptions about who we do or do not do business with are just wrong and sometimes even deflammatory.
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What are you talking about? My assumptions about who you do business with? You said you do business with Pornhub, I am commenting on that. What have I said defamatory about you?
I already gave you proof of stealing. If you can't use common sense to see how those videos got on those tube sites, that those tube sites profit off of stolen content, then ask me this one simple question how did all of the stolen content get there in the first place from day 1? users just showed up and started filling up an empty site.... build it and the porn users will come
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Originally Posted by Far-L
There are plenty of people that we do not do business with because we have issues with their manner of doing business, their ethics, and past experiences with them or even the companies that associate with them. We are happily not "bros", and our stringency about whom we work with has been a major factor in our slow growth. I am supposed to take your baseless accusations that are unproven over my own experience, the advice of our attorneys, and the reality of current market conditions? No thanks. I am fine with you thinking you are somehow morally superior and that we are somehow desperate and grasping at anything to save our pitiful morally bankrupt biz.
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Can you name some people you don't do business with, some of these "plenty people" just curious how many of them you could actually stand to gain from. Or if your decision to not do business with them is based more off of if you can profit from them or not.
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Originally Posted by Far-L
I am not in this debate to win a popularity contest - which you so often seem to be doing when you champion whatever cause of the week you think will make you look important and purposeful. I am just speaking from a different point of view, and an experience that is not consistent with what others are claiming. The fact that I know it is unpopular but I am still willing to present my experience and suffer the consequences regardless speaks to my character, regardless what you think or assume or accuse without merit or proof.
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lol cause of the week. In 7 years of posting on GFY I've "campaigned" 2 issues... stolen traffic and sales from spyware and sites profiting off of stolen content. That = "cause of the week", you exaggerate much?
The fact that you know it is unpopular and post about you doing business with sites that profit off of stolen content isn't anything short of you just trying to justify it in your own head. Funny I always took you to be Mr. On the right side of the issue, but hell when it comes to a top 100 site that is sending you traffic and sales I can see why you are going out of your way to try to justify to yourself, more so than anyone here that you are still doing the right thing... but in order for you to be doing the right thing than you have to convince everyone that porn hub is not bad... good luck with that one!
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Originally Posted by crazytrini85
I can't figure you out.
On one hand you will put up a fight against another force threatening the industry, and are known for being an honest company, then on the other hand turn a blind eye to one of the biggest thieves in the business and try to find a way to do business with them..
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It is rather simple. They had nothing to gain from Acacia, why not fight them. Acacia was shaking everyone down. It was either give in and pay them, ignore them and get sued and have a weak case for avoiding it, or fight them.
On the other hand, porn hub has tons of traffic and sales to send them. So why would he fight them and lose that traffic and sales.
Makes perfect sense to me.