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frameworks are a joke, 99% of coding is handling exceptions, frameworks help zero regards with exceptions in many cases, causes more work than neccessary, this is no time saving whatsoever, unless you like unsecure poorly coded crap which seems to be the norm in todays world... why code a solid piece of software for some jerk who don't want to pay any money..so lets give em frameworks.. it does the job, when they get hacked later or they notice the 15,000 problems we will let some poor sap worry about the fixes..
oh wait, wasnt the point of frameworks to be secure? i mean 80% of the code is not even in the web root... or wait.. 90% of frameworks dont even take advantage of this? let alone stop data tampering?
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