Originally Posted by Matt 26z

What I find most stunning about the tubes is the incredible traffic they receive. We used to drool over The Hun's daily traffic figures, but many of these tubes put even a peak Hun to shame.

The top TGPs screwed up by clinging to the same process for too long, which in turn caused the smaller TGPs to do the same since submitters weren't going to create one version for submission to the "TGP mafia" and another for the more liberal TGP owners. In fact, I don't think the submission rules really even changed over a 10+ year period.

With all of this traffic that the largest tubes get, it now seems pretty clear that surfers disliked the TGP format all these years. You can of course get into the argument of longer, higher quality material, but I think the general presentation of that material played a huge role in surfers leaving the TGP for the tube.