Originally Posted by Bill8

All true of course. as I said, it's a complex subject. You attempt to simplify it with denial, and I empathize with that impulse.

It's not life that is at risk, short of a hydrogen sulfide event, which has happened in the past, it's civilization as we know it. but it's only civilization, we have already lost our best chance, so it doesn't really matter.

Violent storms, droughts, and famines are already happening. The predictive models say they will get worse. we will see.

6000 years ago citystates lived and died constantly, and the civilizations of those days responded to resource depletion and local desertification, such as happened in saharan africa, with migration. But there were only millions of us on the planet at that time, and we had always lived a kind of nomadic lifestyle, even after the invention of agriculture and cities - cities were built, lived in until the surrounding land was desert, then the people moved on to a better area.

There isn't anywhere to migrate now.

anyway, the results aren't really my concern. I dont believe humans can do anything about global warming, if the models are correct and it is happening it won't be me that has to deal with the migrating hordes and the consequences.

so like I said, put up your denial candidates, deny away. Nobody important is really paying attention to your denial, the insurers all know the costs of warming are going up, the corporations all know it, the military knows it, the rest of the world knows it, and the economies of our civilization are all reacting to it.

You have a few years to try to make political power out of denial, so go for it.

all your denials wont matter anyway - oil is a limited resource, and when the oil is gone we will burn every single piece of coal we can extract, then after that the lignite and the peat. nothing can stop what is going to happen.