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Originally Posted by Robbie
I understand what you're saying...but you also have to understand that there ARE millions and millions of people stealing out there. Just go to pornbb dot org and feast your eyes. And that is just ONE surfer forum chock full of entire site rips done by those "innocent" people that you may think are being "targeted".
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but as you know, a lot of the content across most forums comes from the same people, having their bots post on different forums, all the power to people who go after them, try to subpoena rapidshare, hotfile, netload, ... for their IPs
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Originally Posted by Robbie
Look, I've been working this thing since piracy first REALLY took off a couple of years ago. At first I didn't understand what was happening. Hell, I thought it was the tubes and torrent sites themselves stealing. And then I started googling....and started finding all these links to different surfer forums. And my whole world changed.
I then realized what was really happening. And I took steps to protect my stuff. But boy, that first 40 or 50 scenes we had that were on .wmv in our website in the beginning? It's all that removeyourcontent can do to TRY and keep that down to a minimum.
I've been successful in keeping Claudia-Marie from being destroyed by piracy. But other paysites that either don't know what to do or thought in the beginning that they could "work" the tubes and torrents and file share sites? I can't make a sale on them to save my soul.
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it seems what you're doing is working (better) and that's something I fully support
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Originally Posted by Robbie
So yeah, I would actually LOVE it if Fox News reported that people stealing content were getting nailed. The more that everybody out there knows what can happen to them for stealing, the sooner the stealing will stop.
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if you mean stealing = downloading for personal use, no the lawsuits won't make much difference, as we know from similar cases with music
if you mean stealing = downloading and then seeding it, then yes I agree and as I've said before I would support that course of action
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Originally Posted by Robbie
And again...no 16 year old boys are going to steal mommies credit card to join a site to steal content. They don't need to. They can just watch it on pornhub for free.
Nope, the people we are going after are the ones uploading it. They are the culprits, plain and simple. Watching it on a tube isn't a crime.
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I totally agree
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Originally Posted by Robbie
Now if you download physically from a torrent? Now you fucked up. People have been "trained" to think all porn is free for the last two years.
Well now they are going to be trained that IF you steal porn, it's your ass. And you should be applauding that.
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Here again you'll be suing 16 year olds + only people who didn't catch on that it might be safer to download from rapidshare etc... Take out the big seeders.
I feel that sponsors do have a responsability to police their content, something you're clearly doing, but if you see that some big sponsors can't even sent DMCA claims to rapidshare for files on some of the biggest forums, then they shouldn't bitch too much.
Instead of spending money on expensive firms who charge per DMCA claim they do, some of the big sponsors should set up a joint venture, type of union thing that sponsors can join, that fights piracy 24/7, it would be much cheaper. I said this to some sponsors over the last years, they all liked the idea, but nobody has done it.
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Originally Posted by Robbie
EDIT: And to address the subject of financially "ruining" some poor soccer mom...No, it doesn't work that way. As I said earlier, we keep the settlement price down to just below what it would cost to get a lawyer and fight it. It's not a situation that will destroy somebody financially. But it will hurt their wallet enough to make a difference and deter them next time.
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I wasn't talking about you, I was thinking about what the music industry does to people, starting million dollar suits. And from this Xbiz story it seems there are too many lawyers involved for the fines to be reasonable.
Look from all what you're saying, I'll probably support what you're doing, I'm afraid for the excesses that some people might do.