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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
If suing the uploader is ok, then why not expand it up another level in the hierarchy?
Let say the owner of that "road" is charging the bypassers and credit the ones who use the road to give out copied DVDs. How he finance the road does not matter, one way of another he needs to finance it, and what he need (and encourage) is motivation for using his road.
Shouldn't the owner of the road also be stopped, if he motivates and knows what is going on, but ignore it or simply hide behind a law that protect his lack of morality? For his own gain?
The point is that eveyone know what is going on, including the downloaders. They are not the biggest part of the problem but still a problem. Their demands increase along with the creation of it, and by doing so, they need to learn to say no. Age, mentality or simply-gives-a-fuck, they all have in common they need to learn.
The uploader is subject to bigger punishment because he creates more damage. However he is not that easy to get to and usual it should be a job for law enforcement because of the size of damage he make. It is criminal. But law enforcements do not have enough time or ressources, they have to make priorities.
The host is the biggest problem if he allow it to happen. And that is the reality in many cases. He opened the can of worms, the destruction of internet and rights - not the little guy who try to stop it and fighting for his own work  |
Because suing the maker of the road is rediculous, why not sue the people that produced the materials needed to build the road? Or the ones that sold the land for the road? Or sue the truck-manufacturer why you are at it...
There is only one reason why the downloader is sued, to make money. Its not to fight against piracy, that's just ridiculous to claim. You can not sue the website unless it ENCOURAGES uploading infringing content (see the recent lawsuits)... You can in theory sue the tracker provider I guess, but thats hard too I think, you can obviously sue the uploader, which is the only thing that in the end does anything against copyright infringement.
I disagree with your host comment, that's like suing the ISP of the user. Obviously never going to work either.
But we are not discussing this, we are discussing downloader / uploader... the rest is something that we should never start discussing since it will just end up in a big useless fight that helps noone and just pisses you off...