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Mishi · 05-18-2003, 03:37 AM

Charly, you are a fantastic photographer, and I do admire the fact that you seem interested in keeping abreast of US laws, but you, like many other non US citizens here, lack an essential understanding of what makes this country tick.

Stupid laws like the Patriot Act come into being because Americans are essentially lazy. Why are they lazy? Because they can be - it's almost guaranteed that somebody else will take care of most problems that crop up. Laws such as those contained in the so-called patriot act (I refuse to capitalize it) are unconstitutional. They will not stand up in court. (Granted, nobody wants to be the test case - but somebody will, and then the laws will be thrown out.)

To a degree, I'm playing the devil's advocate here. I HATE what Shrub is doing to this country - and, despite being a hardcore liberal, I'm perfectly willing to agree that Clinton let a lot of nasty shit get through the legislature, as well. (Yes, okay, fine, and he actually pushed some of it through. I still like him. Leave me alone.) But what I think a lot of people who don't live in the US don't understand is that laws here don't just come down like an iron fist - there will be test cases, there will be hours and hours and hours of discovery and discussion, there will be protests, etc., etc., etc. Eventually, MOST bad laws will be thrown out.

In one year (please G-d) or five, Shrub will be history. Balance will return and all will be right with the world.

In the mean time, I'll be seriously considering a move the the United Surfer Community of Santa Cruz...

05-18-2003, 03:37 AM
Mishi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,054	Charly, you are a fantastic photographer, and I do admire the fact that you seem interested in keeping abreast of US laws, but you, like many other non US citizens here, lack an essential understanding of what makes this country tick. Stupid laws like the Patriot Act come into being because Americans are essentially lazy. Why are they lazy? Because they can be - it's almost guaranteed that somebody else will take care of most problems that crop up. Laws such as those contained in the so-called patriot act (I refuse to capitalize it) are unconstitutional. They will not stand up in court. (Granted, nobody wants to be the test case - but somebody will, and then the laws will be thrown out.) To a degree, I'm playing the devil's advocate here. I HATE what Shrub is doing to this country - and, despite being a hardcore liberal, I'm perfectly willing to agree that Clinton let a lot of nasty shit get through the legislature, as well. (Yes, okay, fine, and he actually pushed some of it through. I still like him. Leave me alone.) But what I think a lot of people who don't live in the US don't understand is that laws here don't just come down like an iron fist - there will be test cases, there will be hours and hours and hours of discovery and discussion, there will be protests, etc., etc., etc. Eventually, MOST bad laws will be thrown out. In one year (please G-d) or five, Shrub will be history. Balance will return and all will be right with the world. In the mean time, I'll be seriously considering a move the the United Surfer Community of Santa Cruz... __________________ Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.