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Old 09-11-2010, 09:23 PM  
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Have you been there in the last couple years? Are you or were you in the service as your Ranger name implies? If so then I thank you for your service to this Nation.

I myself have not been to Iraq but I have travelled to the Middle East on three occasions. I have heard first hand many things that aren't well reported or not reported at all. I keep myself very well informed on the situation by a wide variety of sources, I immerse myself in as much information as I can...you see I knew a dude killed in Iraq and ever since he died I have followed the situation very carefully. And I'm not at all happy with what I am seeing is the results of him and all the others that have given the ultimate sacrifice for our country. It's easy to call people names in a pubic forum but you failed to point out anything that actually contradicts anything I said.

I mentioned that women can get murdered for not following Sharia Law in many parts of Iraq. Although I'm sure its a little more liberal in Bagdad. Do you have any facts to dispute this claim? Only in Bagdad do women go without their heads covered and VERY few (if any). But Iraq is a large country. Have you personally seen women going around with their heads uncovered outside of Bagdad? If so then please enlighten us. Interesting that even the western female Journalists there ALWAYS have their heads covered on newscasts. This was absolutely not the case under Saddam, sorry but to me thats a HUGE step backward.

There are few schools and entire school system is in shambles, and very few girls go to school at all, and mainly only in Bagdad. This will change for the worse VERY fast now that we are pulling out. You think there will be many girls in Iraq schools in 5 years from now? I doubt it. Saddam had one of the most stable schools systems in the middle east for both boys and girls and was highly praised for it. Now its a disaster.

There has always been and always will be plenty of prostitutes in theocratic nations. I have been to a city in the Middle East where I stayed at luxury hotel that had an entire wing expressly for keeping prostitutes.

But the question is whether or not Iraq is now, a theocracy? From Wiki:

The federal government of Iraq is defined under the current Constitution as an Islamic, democratic, federal parliamentary republic

did you notice the first word - Islamic... yes you are correct that means a theocracy.

Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali al-Husayni al-Sistani is the leader of Iraq, not the government. And when the people had the chance to vote, they voted by an overwhelming majority to put the current Shia controlled government in place.
Question: Do you really think that this government would do anything without the blessing of al-Sistani? I think not. So explain to me how this is not one and the same with a theocracy.


This man is the most powerful man in Iraq, there is not even a close second, does anyone to care to dispute this:



"the country's most powerful man is not even an Iraqi, but an Iranian. He came to Najaf, Shiite Islam's holiest city, more than 50 years ago as a disciple of the then Grand Ayatollah Abul Qasim al-Khoei. Until last August, Sistani never left, nor did he give up his Iranian citizenship. "




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_al-Sistani
Yes I was in the service, 1st Ranger Bn, 3rd Ranger Bn, JSOC, just to name a few units.

The last time I was in iraq was 2004, 2005, & 2006. I was in a mostly rural area south of Baghdad, The Sunni triangle, triangle of death, I traveled to baghdad good a bit to go to the embassy . Iskandariyah was the closest city to us. The women all went around with nothing on their heads. Some choose to wear the traditional head coverings but most did not. The girls were all in school if their parents would allow. But they had a choice.

Yes sistani is a very powerful man in iraq but Muqtada al-Sadr I would say was more powerful in some parts of iraq. I had al-Sadr cornered in Najaf in my scope and could have allowed him to meet his god, but the word from higher was not to harm him... I had to question myself as to if I was going to obey that command or just play the "your breaking up" game. In the end I backed out. I feel that was a BIG mistake.. I should have put the bullet in his head.

I do agree with you on this point, I do feel that life in iraq and the area was better under saddam. I do not agree with killing other heads of state by outside folks. That is something to be left to the people of that country.

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