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helterskelter808 · 09-15-2010, 03:03 AM

While even Bruce Lehman admitted it's flawed, the DMCA is not all about 'The Man' stomping on consumers and infringing free speech/fair use rights. If you're a 'service provider' (that includes being a Webmaster), the DMCA's safe habor provisions mean you are not liable for copyright violations posted/uploaded by your users.

That's a Good Thing.

Have a designated DMCA contact, preferably registered with the US Copyright Office, and all you have to do is comply in a timely manner to properly formatted DMCA requests to either remove, or remove access to, the content.

Even posters/uploaders of the material have rights. Unless you're a 'repeat infringer' you're unlikely to get in any trouble, and if someone issues a spurious or contentious DMCA claim against something you posted, you have the right to counter it.

Either way, it's between the poster and the copyright claimant and, if you're a service provider/webmaster, not your problem.

The DMCA was an issue on Usenet (which is my main background; not adult) for both users and providers even before it became law in the late 90s. Still carrying terabytes of binaries today, Usenet was a place to share files long before torrents and tubes were even dreamed of.

As a related aside, I know for a fact that some porn site owners that in the 21st century have taken an aggressive stance WRT their own copyrights being infringed, started off in the 1990s on Usenet/BBSs 'stealing' copyrighted material, or scanning it from magazines and capping from videos, spamming it back to Usenet and selling/giving it away it on their websites. I doubt that's news here though.

I'm a bit surprised at the hostility from some people to Steve Lightspeed's actions. Grandstanding aside, all he's doing is taking action against unauthorised use of his work.

There's nobody here who can claim it wouldn't stink if someone 'stole' something of theirs or that they would happily sit back and take it. OTOH, I also doubt there's anyone here who can genuinely claim they really care about other people's copyright.

Anyone who has downloaded anything that is copyrighted, be it porn or software from Usenet in the 1990s or mp3s and DVDs in 2010, is a hypocrite to complain about their own material being 'stolen'.

That doesn't mean they have no right to, or shouldn't, go after the people 'stealing' it though.

09-15-2010, 03:03 AM
helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	While even Bruce Lehman admitted it's flawed, the DMCA is not all about 'The Man' stomping on consumers and infringing free speech/fair use rights. If you're a 'service provider' (that includes being a Webmaster), the DMCA's safe habor provisions mean you are not liable for copyright violations posted/uploaded by your users. That's a Good Thing. Have a designated DMCA contact, preferably registered with the US Copyright Office, and all you have to do is comply in a timely manner to properly formatted DMCA requests to either remove, or remove access to, the content. Even posters/uploaders of the material have rights. Unless you're a 'repeat infringer' you're unlikely to get in any trouble, and if someone issues a spurious or contentious DMCA claim against something you posted, you have the right to counter it. Either way, it's between the poster and the copyright claimant and, if you're a service provider/webmaster, not your problem. The DMCA was an issue on Usenet (which is my main background; not adult) for both users and providers even before it became law in the late 90s. Still carrying terabytes of binaries today, Usenet was a place to share files long before torrents and tubes were even dreamed of. As a related aside, I know for a fact that some porn site owners that in the 21st century have taken an aggressive stance WRT their own copyrights being infringed, started off in the 1990s on Usenet/BBSs 'stealing' copyrighted material, or scanning it from magazines and capping from videos, spamming it back to Usenet and selling/giving it away it on their websites. I doubt that's news here though. I'm a bit surprised at the hostility from some people to Steve Lightspeed's actions. Grandstanding aside, all he's doing is taking action against unauthorised use of his work. There's nobody here who can claim it wouldn't stink if someone 'stole' something of theirs or that they would happily sit back and take it. OTOH, I also doubt there's anyone here who can genuinely claim they really care about other people's copyright. Anyone who has downloaded anything that is copyrighted, be it porn or software from Usenet in the 1990s or mp3s and DVDs in 2010, is a hypocrite to complain about their own material being 'stolen'. That doesn't mean they have no right to, or shouldn't, go after the people 'stealing' it though.