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Old 09-16-2010, 07:07 AM  
Gerco
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Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
Gerco, not sure which part of what I am saying you do not understand.

I have absolutely nothing against suing people that are stealing and uploading the videos to sites they have no rights for. None of this has anything to do with suing surfers though that download torrents. (I am not even talking about tube surfers since you can simply NOT SUE THEM... accept that finally, if you could, viacom would have sued all of the US already because everyone on this planet goes to youtube)

There is no precedence here and it has nothing to do with any truth...

I put in an effort to stop the madness going on with our own content too... it just is not that simple and just suing people left and right will NOT FIX THE PROBLEM...

At some point in the near future, most of you will hopefully understand that... for everyone else, there is no saving you... sadly.

RIAA and MPAA has been suing surfers LEFT AND RIGHT the past years.. Do you see _ANY_ change in the amount of torrents out there? NO! Of course you do not, since those people sadly do not care, we have to fix this problem in another way...
Point, torrent users, while download said stolen work, are in turn sharing it to others. Making them the infringer.

As to tubes, you sue the UPLOADER for damages. (which you could base on the number of views said tube site is reporting) I'm sure that one could get the uploaders information by going though legal channels. I'm also sure that you yourself have record of who uploaded what. (what IP's it came from etc.) You even have verified email etc. Since I believe this to be the case and your saying that you are NOT backing these illegal uploads, then I assume that you would be willing to give such information over freely to those of us that can PROVE ownership of said content being infringed upon?

You have no reason to deny that information correct? I mean, what would be the point of protecting a thief basically fencing stolen good? I know you will try and come back with it a privacy issue with the uploaders... Really? What are they going to come and sue you if you gave that information out? Do you give that information out for any other reasons like marketing etc?

If your not protecting this thieves then make a stand publicly and help us that are being torn down by their actions.
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