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Originally Posted by will76
I can't speak for Shap, nor do I know for 100% certainty, but I think you totally missing it here. It is Shap's tube site domains that is saving his business. That and partnerships with other tube sites. His content might be great, but it is having his content on his own tube sites and other tube sites with a link to his pay site that is making him his money. If he had no great tube site domains nor made deals with the bigger tube sites he would be in the same boat as you, Steve, and several other medium size companies that made 100% sales off of membership joins.
I give you an A+ for effort though with your cam site and tube site, but you did them both wrong, and you were way late to the game.
Another brutally honest asshole reply ;)
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Thanks for your opinion but you are totally wrong. You try to read a book by its cover and have no clue what's in the book.
First of all, the words "you were too late in the game" is a Negative statement and if my partner and I listened to everyone that told us that, I would still be a handyman going to home depot every day. It's straight out negative talk.
We didn't build a cams site to be the next Video Secrets, we built it because we have in-house programmers, in-house graphic guys, in-house billing, in-house hosting facilities and lots of employees in our beautiful offices. We have the infrastructure to build anything so why not.
If our cams site brings in an extra 50K net a month, that is an extra 50k we didn't have. Maybe it would have made us Millions if we started it when we started our AVS's but our Focus was on our AVS's. The same AVS's that programmers said we were too late to start. It was 1996, programmers told us what are you guys thinking, save your money, there are like 50 AVS programs out there.
Well, we were paying 250K a month to Lycos for over 2 years and buying all their adult key words and sending it all to our Links pages and making our webmasters hundreds of thousands of dollars, just that should tell you it was a pretty lucrative business for starting late. Good thing we didn't listen to those negative words.
For this new site, We own the content, Konrad had a great deal, took a week to put together, we do the billing for it. So lets say it only makes us a lousy 20K a month, hey, I'm a business man, 20K is 20K, I'll take that any day.
I can go on and on here, but all I'm saying here is get that "it's too late" out of your head. Because if you are working on your own projects and living by those words, you will never get ahead of yourself.
Same thing goes for my mainstream projects, I have heard those same words on so many of my other mainstream business's. And some have failed, but majority have been very, very successful.
Positive things happen to positive thinkers, I live by these words and have been blessed by them.
Thanks for listening.