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Old 09-21-2010, 09:07 PM  
will76
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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave View Post
Thanks for your opinion but you are totally wrong. You try to read a book by its cover and have no clue what's in the book.

First of all, the words "you were too late in the game" is a Negative statement and if my partner and I listened to everyone that told us that, I would still be a handyman going to home depot every day. It's straight out negative talk.

We didn't build a cams site to be the next Video Secrets, we built it because we have in-house programmers, in-house graphic guys, in-house billing, in-house hosting facilities and lots of employees in our beautiful offices. We have the infrastructure to build anything so why not.

If our cams site brings in an extra 50K net a month, that is an extra 50k we didn't have. Maybe it would have made us Millions if we started it when we started our AVS's but our Focus was on our AVS's. The same AVS's that programmers said we were too late to start. It was 1996, programmers told us what are you guys thinking, save your money, there are like 50 AVS programs out there.
Well, we were paying 250K a month to Lycos for over 2 years and buying all their adult key words and sending it all to our Links pages and making our webmasters hundreds of thousands of dollars, just that should tell you it was a pretty lucrative business for starting late. Good thing we didn't listen to those negative words.

For this new site, We own the content, Konrad had a great deal, took a week to put together, we do the billing for it. So lets say it only makes us a lousy 20K a month, hey, I'm a business man, 20K is 20K, I'll take that any day.

I can go on and on here, but all I'm saying here is get that "it's too late" out of your head. Because if you are working on your own projects and living by those words, you will never get ahead of yourself.

Same thing goes for my mainstream projects, I have heard those same words on so many of my other mainstream business's. And some have failed, but majority have been very, very successful.

Positive things happen to positive thinkers, I live by these words and have been blessed by them.

Thanks for listening.
you ignored everything else I said and focused on one half sentence " and you were too late to game".

You were too late to get a good tube site domain, yes or no? Or are you going to shell out big bucks to buy a good one, cyberagemodels isn't exactly going to be brandable like youporn, pornhub, gayporn etc.
Do you think your site with 1 minute video clips is going to pull traffic from all the other established top 100 or so alexa tube sites?
I don't think it is impossible, but starting late you need to have something that is better than what is out there to have a chance and you going to have to work 10x harder.

I should rephrases that, as far as tube sites go you haven't even made it to the game yet.

In my opinion (just replying to you looking for "thoughts?" ) you wont be successful with that tube site. It looks nice, content looks decent, layout it nice... but its basically monthly membership site with a lot of 1 minute free preview videos. The exact thing you should be trying to get away from, membership sites. You should be building the tube site as a traffic magnet and then promoting your sites on it. 1 minute clips, 99% of the people that hit the site will never come back.

Its like the design you showed me in email, there is making things look pretty and there is making things make money. Not trying to bash on you or be negative, but it looks like you enjoy making nice stuff that kind of misses the money making part.
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