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Most do, but not all and that's if the person can afford it at all.
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We already have welfare systems in place for people who are willing to give up control to the government and throw themselves on the mercy of others.
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That's if you can get to Thailand.
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The price I quoted for medical tourism to Thailand included airfare and accommodations. It was not a hypothetical.
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It costs $5-$8k per chemo treatment alone and an upwards of $100k just for treatments. Before pills, hospital stay, therapy, etc. Cancer costs average $150k-$1m+. Just at 100k, that's 33 years of insurance payments just for chemo. This is all paying for it yourself, cash.
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By your own baby math, 33 years of insurance is closer to 300k than 100k. Again, I was not speaking hypothetically on the cancer with multiple surgeries. The insurance company charged more in premiums than it paid out. And that is not even counting the fact that there would probably be a cash patient discount without insurance.
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And we'll still be left with millions that can't pay for the flu shot let alone afford services to a point of getting check ups to stop problems before they happen, which is what really adds to the cost.
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How much do you think a flu shot or doctor visit costs?
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I'm fine with regulation, I'm not fine with killing an entire Industry.
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In Canada, they didn't outlaw insurance, they just made it mostly superfluous for healthcare. You wouldn't support something like that which would take care of everyone, even if it did limit immigration, as Canada does?
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I also support extremes like mandatory drug tests, fitness requirements, etc or you're taxed more.
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The USA is supposed to be based on tenets of personal freedom and the right to the pursuit of happiness.
If the government mandates that I have to give funds I can't afford to insurance companies, so that I then can't afford to get the medical care I may need, or can't afford things my business needs, or whatever I might have spent my hard-earned revenue on, that is wrong.
If the government gets to make me take time out of my work week to come piss in a cup for them or see how many jumping jacks I can do, that is wrong. The economy is bad enough without there being one more thing on everyone's to-do list. Not to mention the humiliation factor. A populace which would submit to drug and fitness testing of this sort will submit to anything.
I will gladly do without a free one, in order to keep as much of my autonomy as is possible.