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We already have welfare systems in place for people who are willing to give up control to the government and throw themselves on the mercy of others.
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You act as if you've never used a Gov service before.
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The price I quoted for medical tourism to Thailand included airfare and accommodations. It was not a hypothetical.
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It's still about getting to Thailand, my grandmother was so sick once they found out she could hardly ride in a car let alone fly half way around the world.
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By your own baby math, 33 years of insurance is closer to 300k than 100k. Again, I was not speaking hypothetically on the cancer with multiple surgeries. The insurance company charged more in premiums than it paid out. And that is not even counting the fact that there would probably be a cash patient discount without insurance.
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I did 3000 a year.
I've never seen that or heard that in a cancer patient before.
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How much do you think a flu shot or doctor visit costs?
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Very little, that's how many can't afford it.
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In Canada, they didn't outlaw insurance, they just made it mostly superfluous for healthcare. You wouldn't support something like that which would take care of everyone, even if it did limit immigration, as Canada does?
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They offer insurance in Canada.. it's just not out of control. I worked in Canada for 2 years, had full access to the health system and every other benefit including the $900 tax refund for gas tax they had left over.
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The USA is supposed to be based on tenets of personal freedom and the right to the pursuit of happiness.
If the government mandates that I have to give funds I can't afford to insurance companies, so that I then can't afford to get the medical care I may need, or can't afford things my business needs, or whatever I might have spent my hard-earned revenue on, that is wrong.
If the government gets to make me take time out of my work week to come piss in a cup for them or see how many jumping jacks I can do, that is wrong. The economy is bad enough without there being one more thing on everyone's to-do list. Not to mention the humiliation factor. A populace which would submit to drug and fitness testing of this sort will submit to anything.
I will gladly do without a free one, in order to keep as much of my autonomy as is possible.
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If you're on the Gov dime you should be required to prove that you need it. If you can afford drugs, you don't need Gov assistance. If you're fat lazy shit head that eats out every meal, you make more than enough money, you don't need Gov help on Insurance or anything.
Those are very reasonable.
Well, Medicare, ss, taxes now don't kill you and Canadians seem to get along perfectly fine, personally and business wise. I'm pretty sure we can adapt. Anyone that works can afford it, anyone that truly can't - truly can't afford to get sick, at all either.
They submit in the Military, Gov workers, millions of jobs all over the Country. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that big of a deal.