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Old 09-24-2010, 11:26 PM  
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Originally Posted by harvey View Post

Finally, let me put an example: let's say you have a friend that enters a fight (totally his fault and you know it or at least suspect it) and you see 2 or 3 guys are going to beat him up. Would you help him and find out what happened later, or would you sit sipping your beer? I know I'd stand for my friend, and maybe later beat my friend up because of what he did. But my first reaction, as well as anyone's that has blood in his veins is t stand for the people you care. That's an objective fact about the majority of people, and you can't perceive that either.

Now, let's take the same situation. I see you're sipping your beer while your friend is being beaten and ask you why don't you do something and you answer "because he's in fault". Well, believe me I'd respect you more if you choose to stand up for your friend (even if he's wrong) than if you prove me the moral altitude you have achieved. Quite probably I'd crack a bottle in your head

So in short: he (as well as you) had no real info, he saw his friend attacked by the hordes, he stood up by him. Period. What is so difficult to understand there?


Your example is bad, you talking about "real" friends about to get into physical harm not business acquaintances getting bad things said about them, and I will take a guess here but that is what most likely all Chris is to Steve, a business acquaintance.

I'd help a friend out if it was 20 guys about to beat him up even if it was his fault. If Chris Mallick was my best friend, I wouldn't have posted anything here, good or bad. I doubt Steve is any more "friends" with the guy then 20-30 other people he has done business with in the industry, meet at a bunch of shows, bought each other drinks, played with each others toys etc...

It's the bro club mentality that I think is sickening. Just like Steve and Shap don't like the "mob" I don't like the "bros". One bro gets into some heat and the other bros come running to defend him before they know what is going on, they jump in to defend the person and vouch for them because he is a bro.

IMO, its a bad business move. I treat business as business and personal life/friends as friends. Business reputation is the most valuable thing you can have and people's trust.
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