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Originally Posted by Bill8
when your opponent is arguing a minor technical distinction, it is often useful to recheck their own sources. and to point out that their minor distinction is minor.
such arguments depend on you accepting the technicality or declining to do the work of factchecking. in this case your opponent deliberately took true partial data and attempted to represent it as whole data, a common rhetorical trick.
asking them to restate the crux of their argument is also useful. often they can't, because they are trying to distract from core issues with technicalities which may or may not be relevant.
in this case the really relevant factor is how the votes turned out, not the party distrubution, which was 50/50 +/-1 during those two years.
one would have to pick characteristic pieces of legislation and look at the vote distribution. The current mandated bush tax bill increase ruckus is about a bill that passed with 58 votes at the beginning of that period - clearly some dems crossed the line, something that dems are known to do, rare for republicans.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...1&vote =00170
it will be interesting to see what a more deadlocked congress produces this next two years. |
if that was actually the point i was trying to make then fact checking would be in order..
however since that was not my intention fact checking was not in order and i dont get so bent on being right like others here, there was no need for me to personally check the facts..
but i applaud you for proving that demon just pulls bullshit out of his arse and fabricates facts to try to show others he is right..
its even funnier to see him back peddle when called out..
the guy is proving to be the typical fanatical right wing goofball...
even vendzilla contributes more constructive two sided communication these days then demon..
it shows me that vendzilla is an intelligent guy that can listen to various viewpoints and change his opinions on certain things without worrying about being called names..
unless people can learn to be humble and realize that its ok to change your mind about something, we as a people will continue to move in a backward direction...
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