Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

wolfshade, consider this: if I created a tube or torrent site dedicated to ripped live shows, let the "users" upload and share with others, then put my ads on the website to sell other products. Maybe thousands others will do the same and in the end all live shows end up available for free minutes after they are finished.
The Live Show sites will react the same way (if not, point me to one who allows it) as the producers of pictures/movies today. Would it be fair, if I just said "adapt or die", "you can't stop it". Of course not, but the logic goes both ways, right?

I don't think you get the big picture and think long enough into future here. First of all, no economy can survive if everyone are stealing from another. Second, the websites hosting torrents or fileuploads are not doing it for "free". They live off by selling ads, bandwidth and by scaring their users to buy fake privacy services. But if everyone jumps off the websites and into real free encrypted networks, then all income is lost for these websites too. Maybe that's a good thing, because it will cut off some motives and reduce the sharing. I think most producers today prefer pirates hiding underground, rather than the "business" models today.