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for example, this whole world war 2 debate, while vaguely interesting as a discussion of military history, is a digression into something that is an attempt to argue away an initial point argued early in this thread.
the argument went - "the US was once great, therefore you should repect us now and not say mean things about the US if you are from another country.".
what's interesting is, not one person commented on the inherent tragedy and ugly implications of that statement. that the US is like a old war hero or maybe an old footbal player, that once was famous and well thought of, but is now - well, what? trading on past glories?
that tragedy nobody wanted to touch.
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