Bill8

I have no interest in debating theory alone, as I said. it's puffery, and lacks predictive power, as we have all so clearly seen with the dot com crash, the derivatives crash, the commodities bubbles, and the loss of real wealth this past decade.

and I didn't see anything in your comments but further defense of academic theory that hasn't predicted real world events.

I suspected you would retreat into your world of theory. I have no objection. you are useful to me as an example of your rhetorical type.

anytime you want to bring up real world proposals, go ahead. I liked your willlingness to state that we should stop outsourcing, altho you left the "how" theoretical.

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as for the world war two argument, I am restating the content and subtext of billywatsons original argument.

This was his original statement of argument, mostly editorial. I extracted his main point, which is that the US acted like a great superpower in ww2, and his following points, which is that we should be respected because of that.

What free ride? You mean the part where we liberated the free world from tyranny and fascism?

That free ride?

If you think the Russians or the Japanese or the Germans would have won WWII they would have treated the rest of the world like the US has?

Look -- we ain't perfect. That's certain...but we're the best Super Power in the history of the world, which includes The Brits and The Spanish and The French.

Wait til it's over and China is running shit. Let's see how you're feeling then.

that we are now in tragic decline is the subtext of those points. you dont argue that you SHOULD be respected unless you know that you are already disprespected.

but I dont really care. nationalism is as nationalism does, and I'm willing to use nationalism as a tool in realpolitik.