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Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn
I'm paid 6 figures a year... I have over 11 years of experience developing in PHP. I also actively write in RoR, Erlang, C/C++, and Perl.
Doc you have no clue what you're talking about. Outside the adult industry there are a slew of PHP devs that break the six figure mark.
The language has no bearing on the capabilities of a developer. The best example came from someone in this thread making the comparison to Photoshop... cause I've seen a whole lot of nasty ass design out there ;)
In fact, I would argue that developers who don't use PHP for web development are the poor ones... There is no language / web server pairing in existence which can handle as many requests per second as PHP Fast-cgi over nginx; combined with the fact that the tech/software is open source... that translates to direct cost savings when compared to any other language / server pairing. Maybe not a big deal if you run a little dinky three box site but when you talk scaling to deployments of over a hundred machines... you see where I'm going...
To me it's all about efficiency. Sure, I love Rails' beautiful syntax combined with Ruby's true OO language structure but that doesn't mean it's going to save me development time, reduce overhead, or make the system more maintainable. Good, clean code following best practices is what brings the aforementioned things to fruition and those things can all be achieved in PHP.
So don't jump on the PHP bashing bandwagon unless you know your shit and you're ready to defend your argument. Some of the largest websites in the world run PHP and for a damned good reason...
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As I stated above.... Programmers in multiple languages earn more, php coders don't. You're not a php coder, you're a programmer that can program in multiple languages. It's expected you earn more - it's not expected that a php coder earns as much as you do.
Over the years I've hired 20+ various types of full-time in house programmers, from extremely skilled to entry level, from creating web applications, our own web servers, billing solutions, our own affiliate programs, to stupid stuff.
Today I deal with nothing but outsource coders from all over the world, many of which post on this forum. If I hired one of them full time, 40 hours a week at the 'average industry rates' I wouldn't pay more than $40k for a full time php coder.
They aren't worth it because the market says they aren't worth it.