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Old 10-04-2010, 08:42 PM  
marketsmart
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Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
marketsmart,

Our tubes are promotional sites. Like any other free site out there, any smaller tube or any TGP or MGP or link list or top list or whatever. We just happen to own the bigger ones. You can find that unfair all you want, this is simply a fact though.

That said, we are not forcing anyone to advertise on our tubes, be it via ads or videos through our paid partner content program. We also do not threaten anyone. Everyone out there can send us DMCA to get content removed which shows up on our tubes but should not be there in their opinion.

I also disagree that we played any part in destroying the affiliate model. I do not even believe the affiliate model is dead. We pay 7 figures each month to our affiliates. Seems hardly dead to me. We have simply found another way to make money in an ever changing industry. You can find that unfair, or evil or whatever, but in the end, it's just business.

We will see who prevails in the long run, but I think you will be surprised.

BTW, we currently pay Vobile to use the fingerprinting system on the tubes, since we do not implement any replacement of content that is fingerprinted yet, we simply remove it. The content owner never pays more than their membership fee under this model with the FSC. We are the ones paying for it in the end, but we do so because we believe that it's the right way to go forward.
i dont fault you for your business model.. i think its brilliant.. you have put companies in a situation where it is more profitable to rev share with you than it is to fight you..

regardless of your intentions to clean up what mansef started, the fact is that mansef built a business by stealing the content of others..

forgive me for being naive, but micheal corleone going legit doesnt squash the sins of his past...

i find it difficult to forgive a company that fucked over a lot of peoples livelihoods just because they change ownership and name...

i dont know why i spend so much time explaining my opinion when i moved on to mainstream 2 years ago when i saw the implosion of adult..

maybe its just my values getting the better of me where i believe that putting doing the right thing is more important than making money...

in any case, good lick with your business model and at least you are moving forward with providing a way for content owners to have their content removed from your sites...










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