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Originally Posted by signupdamnit
In that thread I asked for an exact breakdown of what % goes to the FSC, the tube itself, and Manwin. I must have missed the reply with those answers. They have stated generalities but nothing exact. Shouldn't these figures be public?
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My understanding is that most of the money goes to Vobile (who's actually providing the DFP service), not to the parties you mentioned. I'd prefer if they make their figures public too, but they're not obliged to do so.
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It also seems a conflict of interest. I mean isn't one of the major players involved also one of the primary sources of problems? The whole thing to me has the feeling of the Mafia shaking down businesses for "protection money."
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Well Manvin involvement in this is limited to using the DFP tech at their tubes, they aren't getting any money from fscapap. I'm not 100% sure, but from what was said in the official DFP thread it looks like they're paying money to Vobile too to use their tech to scan uploaded videos, so they aren't getting richer with this deal anyway and aren't getting any cut from the "protection money" to suspect any mafia style extortion scheme.
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The underlying technology may be a step in the right direction but let's see exactly where the money is going. And why not instead make that technology more open and less expensive?
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I'm pretty sure there will be some less expensive or probably even open source and free DFP alternatives in the future. But for now this tech is still very expensive, because people like Vobile who invested millions in it need to recoup their investments and make a nice profit. And it is very CPU heavy, thus infrastructure that is necessary to make it work is expensive too, thus one more reason for the insane fees they charge.
That's typical for most of the new things that hit the market - they start off by being expensive and not transparent, but as the time goes by they're getting cheaper and more transparent. Vobile is not the only DFP provider out there, there are others too but they're all the same - not transparent, never state any prices at their sites, never provide any details as to how exactly their technology work etc. It's just a money grab period for them, like '96-98 in adult.
Alot of what is looking shady in this deal attributes to the nature of DFP market, not to the deal itself. Neither TB nore Manvin and not even fscapap are providing the actual DFP service - it is all done by Vobile, fscapap is just a reseller. Were there any DFP provider that charges $10/month to scan 1000 tubes and allows unlimited amount of videos, they'd probably use it, but there's none yet.