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Old 10-07-2010, 04:30 PM  
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Good post DDuke...however, the companies you had meetings with in Jan. of 2008 had not YET felt the impact of piracy to the extent it became by the end of 2008/beginning of 2009. So those meetings don't mean much. Hell, I talked to so many paysite owners over the last couple of years and I can tell you flat out that at the beginning of 2008 I was still being told to "not worry about it" and "it's good advertising and branding"

Also, in regards to the cost.

Yes, I'm sure that Hollywood studios with giant budgets are getting milked pretty good pricewise. And it's great that you were somehow able to convince the software people to give us such a great break.

But again...it comes down to how effective it is versus cost.

A major studio releases "Iron Man 2" for instance. Hell yeah it's worth 30 grand to them to try and keep it down to a dull roar on pirate sites.

I release "Claudia-Marie Gets Butt Fucked By Pornhub" this week. Next week I release "Claudia-Marie Blows The FSC" and next week I release something else and so on and so forth...
BIG difference. So explaining how much the software fee for Hollywood vs. Adult is kinda pointless.

Bottom line is simple business: How much is it worth? The answer: Whatever someone is willing to pay.

Are there better solutions to keeping stuff off of ALL sites for a quarter of the $450 a month? You better believe there is.

Bottom line: You need to get this rolling on THOUSANDS of pirate sites. I'd forget the "replace vid with trailer" bullshit. That is doing nothing but forcing you to beg pirates to comply. Use the software the correct way: Auto DMCA.

And to do that you're going to need the data base of the pirate sites. Something that you don't have yet.

That's my point. You've went out and secured fancy software. And you don't have the means to implement it correctly yet (a handful of tubes so far).

It's sort of like if I went out and bought a NASCAR race car. I wouldn't have a clue what to do.

You've got a bazooka in your hands but no target at this point.

That's what I'm saying when I say you have ZERO experience. Having meetings and attending seminars isn't going to suddenly smarten you up.

I honestly think you need to drop that price WAY down real quick and try to get tons of folks on board. Otherwise I can't see the cost effectiveness of paying $450 to play video switch-a-roo with a few tube sites. And yes I know you plan on it growing. Well, like ALL businesses you need to have the correct price point for that.

And $450 ain't it. And joining the FSC to bolster you guys up a bit more...well, that's pretty smart on your part. But again...the $450 a month is gonna stop that from happening on a major scale.

It doesn't matter to me or anybody else that runs a business how fancy and "cutting edge" your software is. If I can get better results on over ten thousand pirate sites for a quarter of your price and I don't have to join anybody or anything...well, it's a no-brainer on that one.

Again, I'm not discounting the wonderfulness of this software. Just pointing out the real world here. You're asking people for a premium price and delivering about 9,990 LESS pirate sites being impacted.

You're gonna start out delivering tiny results, you may want to re-think this "Well Hollywood pays a LOT more" business strategy.

I am certainly playing devils advocate here with this discussion. I sincerely wish that you had brought this to the table with at least some of the people who have been actively dealing with piracy while you were having meetings and attending seminars. No offense. But come on man. This thing needs some pit bulls who are hands on experienced and it needs to be tweaked out to start going after ALL pirate sites.

Others have and are doing it. But best of luck on this. Maybe in a few months you'll get it all up to speed. Fastest way would be to set that shit to auto dmca and flag it after a certain period for litigation if it doesn't come down.
That would get REAL results and wouldn't depend on asking pirates to play nice. You could instantly be going after ALL sites instead of a handful (well, that is IF you had the databases of the sites all filled in with dmca info on each of the 10,000 + of them)
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