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Old 10-08-2010, 10:52 AM  
Robbie
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Then they need to be upfront with copyright owners and tell them they are in this to make money. Don't try and package it with some bullshit claim about wanting to stop piracy. They don't want to stop piracy because it's their new cash cow now.
Well in all fairness...of course they want to make money. Who doesn't?

The thing that they are ALL missing here is the emotion factor. Will this help the piracy situation? Yeah a little bit. Will it make some money as a motivation to the FSC and the tubes? Yeah.
BUT...does it piss off the guy who did the REAL work of creating, filming, editing, uploading, taking the legal risks, etc.? You damn right it does.

That's why the posts from Fabian come across so smarmy. He doesn't have a fucking clue. He's probably never even been on a real porn set in his life. But for those of us who actually have all the skill sets to do everything from casting to lighting to editing to uploading to site design to updating to marketing etc., etc. WE get fucking pissed when someone else comes along and makes money off of our work.

So Fabian comes in here and gets blasted. And then he gets pissed off and starts posting in a shitty manner. Human nature...he's defending himself. And then the guy who did all the REAL work gets even more pissed.

Same with DDuke. When I read that he went to some seminars and had a meeting with AEBN in Jan. of 2008 so he now knows about piracy...I almost spit water out of my nose! lol

WE, the guys who actually do this for a living are the ones who do REAL work. Not go to meetings. Or seminars. Or own a tube site that runs itself on a script and tell people on GFY that it's impossible to police it.

No. Guys like me are the ones who really work this business. If Fabian gets fired tomorrow...oops, I mean if he loses his company tomorrow...what skill sets does he possess to do anything in the real porn business? I don't know. Can he shoot? Direct? Can he open notepad and build a site? Can he manage his own server? Film editing? Does he know how to take care of his own 2257 docs? My guess is a big fat NO. Other people do all that for the company, not him.

Well, a lot of us out here HAVE taken the time to learn to do all these things. And we do it everyday. And make a damn good living from it.

But to see people scheming on how to make money with MY work doesn't sit well. It doesn't sit well with anybody who actually has skin in the game.

Again, I completely understand and agree with the concept of monetizing it. I'm just trying to explain why I don't think it will ever be fully accepted and the FSC congratulated with open arms about it even if they deserve to be.

Content producers are going to look at it like a shakedown. That's just the way it will be.

Now, companies like Top Bucks, Nasty Dollars, etc. will be a lot more open to that. Because they too are run by people who never step foot on a porn set. They just hire shooters to do the work. So they aren't gonna be as emotional because they don't have the time and effort invested.

They simply budget out each month for x number of scenes. No involvement other than talking on the phone. So those big companies are going to probably step in line rather quickly I would guess. Why not?
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