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Without knowing the details of the Manwin backend... If the account was flagged/banned I would assume there would be no orphaned videos floating about, as all the videos linked to that account should be flagged/disabled as the account is no longer on the "active" setting for pulling videos from the database. However, the actual video data would obviously still exist on the CDN until manually deleted, this is where the trust would need to come in. And that trust will be hard earned after the shambles of the tube "problem" up until this point in time.

Maybe before it got to the rampant-theft-of-content-stage it did, someone should have suggested to the previous owners of the tubes to look into offering verified content owners/eric@ryc have special access accounts so they can log in and kill/remove infringing videos in real time? Maybe just a simple tool that required an authorised code from the verified content producer/content owner to function so they can input the video url or id and the site auto-flags it for instant removal and all the details of who killed the video/who uploaded etc are sent out every day to all verified content owners so nobody can just start deleting a rivals videos etc. Yes, this is a very simplistic explanation/solution but I hope you get the idea. Maybe even of charged a small fee for it would be fine as it would save lots of time on DMCA etc for the content owner/producer. Could maybe even do that now? Or even look into the solutions Andy (b0rked) has shared, they are pretty smart and won't cost "too much" for even Mom & Pop setups to implement.

Real World example... My friend runs a moderate-sized UGC tube (not porn) that doesn't allow anonymous uploads and requires an email validation link be clicked(temp email account hosts are banned, obviously) before account activation and uploads are limited to 16mb per video. His setup is that if a video is flagged X times the uploader account is automatically locked out and ALL associated content that user uploaded is removed from the search results/active content list (at this point it still exists on the CDN, obviously) until the flagged account can be reviewed and the offending content is manually deleted from the CDN as soon as possible. While an automated solution would be great for him, without knowing if the content is being flagged by people who, for example, simply don't like the user and are just flagging his content out of spite, at the moment he handles it all manually. But once the content/account/ip banned/email blocked/etc is gone it stays gone until another user(yes, the same one could sign up again) re-uploads the content again... and the process starts over again. Manual deletion is the same for flagged content or DMCA notices, so basically for him there isn't 1 button he presses and the account and content are gone instantly. While the flagging is automatic, the removal is manual.

Now back to Adult... So on a server cluster the size that Fabian now owns for the Manwin tube network, I can only guess at the huge amount of time to do the same it would have taken remove the offending content (yes, even with staff employed simply to handle DMCA/flagged content). People seem to have the idea that there is this magic button that gets pressed and voila everything is sorted instantly. It doesn't work like that in the real world unfortunately. But now with VideoDNA fingerprinting tech running for the last couple of months, who knows? I can't imagine the feeling, but I can understand just how berserk you content owners must go when your content appears on tube sites without your consent, and rightly so. If it was my content the tubes had stolen I'd probably be going berserk aswell and seeing this as yet another kick in the nuts, only this time I have to pay for the privilege at first glance. But I greatly value the importance of hearing both sides of the debate, so people can make up their own minds without having to trawl through post after post of "HURRRR DURRRR I BLAME TEH TOOBS, BRAH" crap. Did the tubes steal content? Of course they did, everyone knows this. Did Fabian steal the content? No. Did he come here and try to answer any an all questions asked of him? Yes. Is he making an effort to fix the tube "problem", I think he is yes. Does he get shit on by people boxing him up with the Mansef clowns? Yes. And I think that is wrong. I'm in the tiny minority I know, but still, to constantly shit on the guy over something HE HAD NO CONTROL OVER is dumb in my opinion. Why drive the guy away with nonsense instead of asking thought-out questions? Makes no sense to me. I mean, what if he is who he says he is and what if he does what he has promised to do with the tubes? What if we're all siting here next year, and the content guys are going "well shit, it actually does make/is making a real difference" you know. What if.

Oh, and before the usual suspects come leaping in with their "Why don't you kiss his ass more, fucker!" crap, I don't know Fabian personally in the real world, I just know of him from coding NATS. I'm saying this based on the .XXX discussion that started off fine and dandy and both sides were having a great debate on the .XXX subject until the clowns jumped into the discussion and turned it into a game of calling Stuart Lawley playground names, so he left the discussion and rightly so. We're supposed to be adults here, so just for a change instead of going berserk and attacking someone just because it's convenient, let's act accordingly, and maybe, just maybe, come to up with a solution that suits all parties. Just for a change.

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